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LOL, I love this idea. Is this even possible to do?
1 posted on 07/01/2011 12:08:00 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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I don’t see why not. It’s happened in the past. Plus obama already thinks there is 60 states so he might not even notice.


2 posted on 07/01/2011 12:11:33 PM PDT by cableguymn
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Too bad it requires the approval of the legislature of California and approval by Congress. See Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution.


3 posted on 07/01/2011 12:11:41 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (????)
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This should probably happen in most states. Certainly VA- NOVA should definitely be its own state because it’s certainly not like the rest of the state. West Virginia did it, so there is a precedent, but I’m not sure how it can happen.


4 posted on 07/01/2011 12:12:00 PM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To me , the BIGGEST obstacle is comign up with a hard number as to what share of California’s debt...bonds, pensions, estimating all the unfunded liabilities, etc, the new state would have to agree to assume...it would require serious accounting...something the pols wouldn’t want done..also, I’m pretty sure that many of the bond woiuld immediately become callable and due, or have to be renegotiated..


5 posted on 07/01/2011 12:12:35 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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Probably not as congress wouldn’t go for it unles You find a liberal area that wanted to come into union to have any chance in order to keep balance..ie Alaska and Hawaii came in at the same time, one republican state and one democratic state.


6 posted on 07/01/2011 12:13:04 PM PDT by scbison
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Were they to succeed Northern CA would get RICH QUICKLY selling water rights!


8 posted on 07/01/2011 12:13:31 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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Article 4, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

It's possible, if Sacramento consents...or, if there is another Civil War and they try to pull a West Virginia.

11 posted on 07/01/2011 12:14:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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Maybe they should just join with Baja California del Norte.


12 posted on 07/01/2011 12:16:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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OK, sounds good to me. Does this mean we can open fire like what happened in 1861 when we had some states wanting to secede?

I've got all this ammo I've had for years waiting for the "Big One". It's time to renew and replenish. Will they be under the Mexican flag?

13 posted on 07/01/2011 12:16:40 PM PDT by chuckles
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There have been attempts to divide CA into two or three states in the past. Generally this has come from folks in the north and opposed by the pols from the LA area who exercise a disproportionate share of influence.

The key to this is water.

15 posted on 07/01/2011 12:18:00 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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When democrats can’t get their way they’re always wanting to divide and attempt to conquer.

United we stand. Divided we will fall.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 12:22:43 PM PDT by swheats (America, America God shed His grace on thee.)
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would be strange because Southern California (USC)would be in North California. Would the be call Southern North Cal or USNC.
18 posted on 07/01/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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Wow...look at the poll results!!

I love this idea!


21 posted on 07/01/2011 12:41:03 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Where do YOU stand in your relationship with God???)
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I’d love to see NYC become the 51st state. Well, Obama would think it’d be the 61st but whatever....


22 posted on 07/01/2011 12:41:46 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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If this happens I’ll stay in California.

It’s the only way to salvage at least part of California.

The north is proof of what happens when liberals and the DNC has a total lock on culture, economics and schools.

I am a native, born here in Sacto in 57.

Calif in its current configuration is beyond repair.


25 posted on 07/01/2011 12:44:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Be respectful, be courteous, have a plan to kill every flash mob member that threatens you or others)
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Uh, oh....this kind of secession talk will give 0zero a splendid opportunity to play Abraham Lincoln.

I can vision him ordering a top hat and waistcoat now.

Leni

26 posted on 07/01/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by MinuteGal (a)
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So the new state really WOULD be Mexifornia?

Even if it were possible, I hardly see this as a good idea.

The illegals run Kalifornia now, souther Kalifornia in particular.

Adding two more agents of Mexico to the U.S. Senate hardly seems like a good idea, how many congressmen would they get?

There may be conservative enclaves in So. Kali, but this will not increase their power.
Any attempt to resist the illegal alien takeover is likely to be met with arrest as a “hate crime” and condemnation by the press at the least.

“Control the border”, who is he kidding?


28 posted on 07/01/2011 12:49:43 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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I double-dog dare them...
34 posted on 07/01/2011 12:57:38 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Ballygrl; Jim Robinson

Address change ~~ping~~


35 posted on 07/01/2011 1:00:48 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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When Republicans are next in power then that would be the ideal time for a large state, or group of states, to secede.

There would be bloodshed if it was done when demos are in power.

This will happen sometime in the next 50 years no matter what. The country is in a downward socialistic spiral. People will demand a place to escape to.

The states that secede could agree to pay their share of the national debt over a period of say 50-100 years in US dollars. The agreement would need to state that the dollar could not be re-valued but must stay as is. This would force the remaining rump nation to at least attempt to control inflation because the money due would float up or down in value with the worth of the dollar :-)

The new nation would thrive, the old nation would soon collapse and state after state would petition to join the new free nation. The old nation would eventually print money like Weimar Germany and the value of the dollar would drop to a tiny fraction of what it is now. The new nation would then sell a little gold and pay off their debt with tons of worthless dollar notes :-)

Yes, I know it won’t happen...what I fear will happen is some sort of civil war...very bad business that.


37 posted on 07/01/2011 1:25:28 PM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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