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To: Ballygrl
Article 4, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

It's possible, if Sacramento consents...or, if there is another Civil War and they try to pull a West Virginia.

11 posted on 07/01/2011 12:14:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

we always discuss secession but is there a mechanism for “expulsion”. I would find this a much better solution to our dilemma if we could just expel most of New England and California from the United States.

Perhaps Quebec and Newfoundland could form a country with NY, MA, CT and we could bring on British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and maybe Ontario although we could give Ontario Detroit and Madison and be way ahead if they would then form with the New NE cesspool. They could all speak French and Ebonics.

Give California to Mexico since it is almost there anyway. They could speak Ebmexasianlish.


27 posted on 07/01/2011 12:48:56 PM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: rabscuttle385

What would stop Sacramento from wanting to lose a bunch of working middle class conservatives?

If they fight for us , its solid proof they rely on us for funding their vote buys.


31 posted on 07/01/2011 12:53:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Be respectful, be courteous, have a plan to kill every flash mob member that threatens you or others)
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To: rabscuttle385

Fifty years away from American History in High School, I seem to remember that both Texas and California came into the Union as free countries which made treaties wiht the United States including provisions that Texas could be divided into as many as five states, and California divided into as many as three, (or maybe it was the other way around). Anyway, my understanding is that ratified treaties have status equal to the Constitution, so I personally doubt that there is a constitutional argument at all. How these divisions were to be made, when and if made, is probably in the treaties. My guess is it would require the approval of the California legislature. It might not require the approval of the U.S. Congress unless that is what the treaty says. California historians, what do you think?


49 posted on 07/01/2011 2:45:51 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: rabscuttle385

california was a republic...so they have historic ability to re republic-ize(I coin a word)....then join the union if they like...

if it were my republic...I would wait till the current scum is out of Washington, before considering statehood.

of course I totally make outrageous assumptions so keep your flames to yourself...thanks in advance.


52 posted on 07/01/2011 2:49:26 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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