U.S. considers 56.2 mpg vehicle fuel standard -WSJ

reuteurs ^ | 6/26/11 | reuteurs

[Flavius]

EW YORK, June 26 (Reuters) - The Obama administration is considering requiring all new cars and trucks sold in the United States to get an average of 56.2 miles per gallon by 2025, The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday.

[gunsequalfreedom]

If Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn is right, by 2025 we may have electric automobiles about the size of a Honda Civic go 800 km (497 miles) on a single charge and get recharged in about 15 minutes at a commercial direct current charging station. In that scenario, 56.2 mpg would be considered a gas guzzler because who’d want to buy a gasoline-fueled automobile when you can drive from Sacramento, CA almost to San Diego on a single charge of the battery?

Interesting side note on that one...with that vehicle you will be paying a tax per mile instead of a tax per gallon. Already in the works.

[gunsequalfreedom]

I’m still trying to figure out where they came up with the 1.6 gallon Toilet. Up to that point, Toilets used about 3 gallons per flush. Did those idiot Politicians flip a coin or draw straws to come up with that number of gallons?

They tested it, which is a digusting thought so maybe we better stick to miles per gallon instead of gallons per flush.

[DaxtonBrown]

[I’d agree with you if that was an alternating current charger. But with a direct current charger, ]

DC or AC doesn’t matter, it’s all converted to DC before it goes into a battery. I used amps as a generic shortcut that most people are used to. It is the wattage and total joules that you are pushing that makes the difference. While you can push as much energy as you want into one car, one time, in a lab and if you take over the grid, i’m telling you you aren’t going to convert any non-trivial percentage of cars to electric in that time frame (2025)without blowing the grid or blowing the cars or both.

[Maurice Tift]

   56.2 because 56.1 would not be enough, 56.3 would be too much.

  That's what's so amazing about central planning. They just know these things!! They must be geniuses!! I remember how impressed we all were when Obama proclaimed that we should pump our tires to the correct pressure and save gas - and he told us all to unplug our cell phone chargers when we weren't using them so we could all help him to lower the sea lavels and save the world!

[sheik yerbouty]

And tomprrow I will anounce that i am King farouk!

[jonrick46]

These cars have already been here. The problem is, the U.S. has such stringent emissions standards, the diesel shown below cannot be sold in the U.S.

This is the Ford's ECOnetic Fiesta which packs a 1.6-liter Duratorque turbodiesel engine that offers more than 60 mpg.

[jonrick46]

Check out my post #66.

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx for the ping Army Air Corps !

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[taildragger]

These cars have already been here. The problem is, the U.S. has such stringent emissions standards, the diesel shown below cannot be sold in the U.S.

Stringent no, different yes, so it means two different calibrations or emissions systems. Also my auto gnomes tell me people talk diesel but when push comes to shove and they develop a diesel variant, it doesn't sell, the numbers are not their to justify the cost.

IMHO the fuel of the future is LPG via direct injection. We do not have the national will with Oboingo to make it happen. Australia is going for it gang busters....

[RayChuang88]

I would agree if you're talking future derivatives of lithium-ion batteries aboute potential for damage from high-power charging cycles. However, developments in ultracapacitor batteries means they can be charged from a high-power commercial charging station and still be able to withstand potentially tens of thousands of recharge cycles without damaging the battery.

By the way, I don't think the idea of taxing cars by the distance traveled is a good idea--it would require every car be equipped with the equivalent of electronic toll collection transponders (e.g., the FasTrak system used in the San Francisco Bay Area) and transponding stations installed on highways--the exorbitant installation cost would far out-weigh the tax revenue generated.

[Chickensoup]

By the way, I don’t think the idea of taxing cars by the distance traveled is a good idea—it would require every car be equipped with the equivalent of electronic toll collection transponders (e.g., the FasTrak system used in the San Francisco Bay Area) and transponding stations installed on highways—the exorbitant installation cost would far out-weigh the tax revenue generated.
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But it is not aabout money or saving fuel. It is about tracking and controlling the population. Welcome to serfdom. The government cannot yet put tracking collars on our nexks, so they are doing the next best thing, tracking the things we use to live our lives.

[sam_paine]

it’s all garbage, and he and his handlers know it. ...

I think they know what they're doing. The Chevy Volt had some ridiculous contrivances to advertise 234MPG* (in the first 30 miles, downhill, fully charged, etc)

I suspect this new number is actually "achievable"...by merely twiddling with the calculation methods that the EPA does for hybrids.

Sure, physics will limit the reality, but lefties can claim great progress on their charts "during the Obama years."

Obama will come and go, but the bureaucrats will never die.

[Red Badger]

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

[Tallguy]

Did you write this? LOL!

[Abathar]

I’m a big guy that lives out in the country with a mile long gravel driveway that goes up and down some serious hills. When they can offer me a car that will handle modest off-pavement ground clearance and also be roomy enough for a fat old guy I’ll buy it.

Somehow I think their answer will be for me to lose weight instead of building a car large enough to be comfortable for guys like me.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

You underestimate our enemy. They want you to sell your place, move to a 700 sq foot apartment on the 34th floor of a high-rise building located next to the railroad tracks just outside the city, and walk for your groceries and other errands. You won’t be allowed to have AC or winter heat and you will be allowed one curley-que mercury filled bulb to read by. Oh, and there will be no Internet access to read subversive sites like FR.

[BwanaNdege]

"He KNOWS that an average of 56 mpg is impossible."

NONSENSE!

A family vehicle giving 56 mpg is available now, in selected markets!

;-)

[Kickass Conservative]

With all the crap coming out of D.C. these days, a Toilet that needs a 1000 Gallons to flush would be required.

Even with that, chances are there would still be some floaters left in the bowl.

[BwanaNdege]

“Unicorns pooping skittles.”

Yes, but these are biodegradable, produce no greenhouse gasses AND give 56mpg! Of course, the World Wildlife Fund plans to outlaw the collection of Unicorn-pooped skittles as “an invasion of unicorn privacy”.

Once again, Catch-22 wins!

/sarc

[BwanaNdege]

"This is perfectly reasonable, so long as you put sails on it and you have a good tailwind."

Can you imagine the pile-up when it's time to tack on the I-405 or I-285 in Hotlanta.