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You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake
World Net Daily ^ | May 25, 2011 | WND

Posted on 05/25/2011 7:02:17 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.... Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document....

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

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To: ml/nj
This has made me skeptical of this latest reference of yours too.

You have a tendency to be skeptical of things that prove you wrong. I just don't know what else to say. As far as I'm concerned, I've provided exactly what you asked for.

561 posted on 05/27/2011 11:34:24 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
As far as I'm concerned, I've provided exactly what you asked for.

I didn't say you hadn't. But I'm asking for something more like the document in question now. Help me out.

ML/NJ

562 posted on 05/27/2011 11:47:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Kleon
Just so you know this excerpt from page 8 (pdf page 8) of your recently referenced document makes your point much better:

Still, I think there's something strange about these bookscans. I'm hoping you will find an example of an actual document scan for me.

ML/NJ

563 posted on 05/27/2011 12:21:40 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Then when I came out vehemently against Orly Taitz’s freak show, that was the last straw.

Thanks for admitting that you did indeed start mocking the birthers. I give you 2 points for honesty.

564 posted on 05/27/2011 12:21:50 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Um, no. Wrong. Orly Taitz is not a FReeper.


565 posted on 05/27/2011 12:28:14 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: ml/nj
Just so you know this excerpt from page 8 (pdf page 8) of your recently referenced document makes your point much better:

I noticed that, but you had previously asked for an example that was "obviously not text..."

Still, I think there's something strange about these bookscans. I'm hoping you will find an example of an actual document scan for me.

I don't see any technical reason why it would be different. The reason I used books rather than something like a birth certificate is that there aren't a lot of examples of the latter on the Internet, and probably even fewer that would have been scanned using a process that would produce the kind of pixelation found on Obama's birth certificate. I'll admit that the way it was scanned is unusual for a document of that type, but I wouldn't call that evidence for fraud.

566 posted on 05/27/2011 1:18:03 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: ml/nj

Could be. It’s not for me to say. I’m not a forensics document examiner. I do have extensive experience in printed documents, but without examining the original 1961 long-form BC in the book in the vault, I really couldn’t say.


567 posted on 05/27/2011 3:15:53 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: ml/nj

Could be. It’s not for me to say. I’m not a forensics document examiner. I do have extensive experience in printed documents, but without examining the original 1961 long-form BC in the book in the vault, I really couldn’t say.


568 posted on 05/27/2011 3:16:21 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: LucyT

Oh, I know the feeling. I’ve had random threats, too. I actually have CEU (Central European University-— George $oros’s Nazi bootcamp)”monitor my blog”. I’ve had libs email death threats to me, and all kinds of other Moonbat poop.


569 posted on 05/27/2011 7:26:48 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: conservativegramma
Your name was on a Troll list I received by freepmail back in October 2008!

Post the list and who it was sent from/to. I wasn't much of a birther fan in 2008, then I realized that there was some value in keeping the pressure to uncover the records (birth, school etc). At the same time I'd like to know who the all the birthers are, particularly those who might not post much but send private mails behind the scenes.

570 posted on 05/27/2011 7:56:49 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: screaminsunshine
Just wondering: Doesn't a long form birth certificate have TWO sides, even if the back side has nothing?

Shouldn't Obama also show us the back of his long form birth certificate so that we can judge for ourselves that something of value is or is not on the backside?

For instance, does the seal on the front-—the one I cannot see but other posters have told me it is there-—also appear on the back?

Myself, I would like to see the back of Obama’s long form birth certificate.

If anyone here has seen the back, please give me the link so that I can examine the back of Obama’s long form birth certificate for myself. Thanks.

571 posted on 05/27/2011 9:23:47 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Kleon
I've thought some more about these bookscans. I think that even though the copyright on the original material has expired, the scan itself is the property of whoever produced it. Copyright notices and watermarks are nice, but scattered digital irregularities might also be useful in proving that someone has lifted another's effort.

ML/NJ

572 posted on 05/29/2011 8:24:10 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
That doesn't make sense in the case of a blogger whose scans have no copyright restrictions. Since he's not asking for any attribution, even when selling the scans, there's no reason to use irregularities or watermarks.
573 posted on 05/29/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Tunehead54

Ha! Ha! You’re right.


574 posted on 05/29/2011 12:49:04 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: jackibutterfly

Of course I’m right. I’m always right. Its a curse. Imagine being my wife for thirty plus years and the bass turd is always right. Just so you know whatever I post is invariably correct with flawless reasoning in case you wanted to check. ;-)

Because you were so nice to respond here’s a secret way to achieve balance and happiness and wisdom in life: Treat every person you encounter with courtesy, respect and good humor until they respond otherwise. Even then continue to be polite as you devise your best plan to kill them if necessary. Works great. ;-)


575 posted on 05/29/2011 1:15:12 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Kleon

You dumbass- I just looked at your post

You are trying to pass off COMPUTER GENERATED ASCII TEXT as ‘pixel by pixel’ duplicates

OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE YOU MORON- If you were to look at each leter here: tttt <~~~ those would all be bizel by pixel duplicates

Shut the hell up with this moronic “OCR” argument- there is NO OCR in this document and there is not reason for there to be.

You have no clue what you are talking about so shut up, stupid


576 posted on 05/29/2011 4:21:20 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K
You are trying to pass off COMPUTER GENERATED ASCII TEXT as ‘pixel by pixel’ duplicates

They come from a scan of a document from 1952. Not only are they obviously typewritten, they predate word processing.

Whoops.

577 posted on 05/29/2011 4:59:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Tunehead54

I think you just became my favorite poster. Love your sense of humor. :-)!!!


578 posted on 05/29/2011 8:34:39 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: Mr. K

My! My! Have a conniption fit, why don’t we. Geeez. You don’t have to be so ugly to get your point across. Calm down, you might live longer.


579 posted on 05/29/2011 8:37:27 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: TheCipher

What is weird about that blueish COLB that you posted, with the blueish lettering appearing, is the ghost font seems to be a SMALL CAPITALS font. Thats where the lowercase letters are still all capitalized only slightly smaller than the font’s Uppercase letters. It may be an indication of modern Computer Type rather than Typewriter Type.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_capitals


580 posted on 05/31/2011 10:08:57 PM PDT by WashStateGirl
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