You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake

World Net Daily ^ | May 25, 2011 | WND

[conservativegramma]

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.... Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document....

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

[Brown Deer]

or did YOU get caught playing YOUR game?

[little jeremiah]

You didn’t read the Auntie thread? Or other related research threads?

[Brown Deer]

odd, since “HOUR OF BIRTH” is at the top.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I said Senior specified it. Since SAD signed it, she could have been the one who actually wrote it down. Nobody knows. We weren’t there.

No, ‘A’ does not have to equal ‘B’ just because ‘A’ equals ‘A.’

[little jeremiah]

I started reading it just now but Lamecherry is too hard to read when my eyes are crossing from exhaustion. Plus it looks too convoluted and obscure and weird.

[Brown Deer]

go ahead and fill in “A” and “B” dimwit.

[TheCipher]

It is weird why they would make a copy like that. It is like the first quarter of the page was moved up. Here is a better image :

[BuckeyeTexan]

Nah. You don’t want to have a conversation. You want to sling insults. Stop wasting your time.

[Brown Deer]

I said Senior specified it.

You seem fairly certain about that, but not so sure who wrote it down. So please explain why he would specify his race to her, as though a college student who had sex with him couldn't figure that one out, but not let her know his birthday? Are you really the moron that you are leading us to believe? Do you truly believe that she would know that his full name was "Barack Hussein Obama" with that exact spelling and not know his birthdate? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[Brown Deer]

It’s behind the entire document, not just the part from the book. Does this show up on every version, or is this just one copy, that someone made on the internet?

[BuckeyeTexan]

If and when you’d like to have a conversation minus the mudslinging, do let me know. Otherwise, I’m tuning you out. G’night.

[Brown Deer]

It’s not the first time that you’ve made the comment, that Barack, Sr. supplied the information. Either he supplied it or he didn’t. If he supplied the information, then he was 27 years old at the time of the birth and that would have been on the original birth certificate.

That is a fact that Barry never knew before he had the forgery created.

[Brown Deer]

Well look who's talking! He slings it out first, then runs away from the facts like a crybaby.

I can’t figure out if you’re just playing games or if you’re as ignorant as the logic in your posts seems to indicate.

Learn some logic, bucko!

[LucyT]

Miss Tickly wrote:

whether or not a direct threat was made by this person doesn’t really matter – this particular email was from a terrorist... this sick person wanted me to fear for my child’s safety. Needless to say, this is what led to the recent decision to close my blog.

More:

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/the_audacity_of_seal/

Thanks, little jeremiah.

[TheCipher]

It is done from the copy that the AP made. Here is the link from WND that shows it :

WND

[palmer]

From the link: Furthermore, a retraction from Ms. Guthrie on what she saw and felt would only indicate that President Obama has never presented an image of a legally certified copy of a birth certificate issued by the Hawaii Department of Health with the required raised seal.

In light of Factcheck.org's error, I've written Ms. Guthrie and asked that she confirm whether she felt a raised/embossed seal or a lowered/debossed seal. I described for her what I have described for you, so that there is no mistake as to what I am asking her to recall.

She has not replied because neither answer benefits Barrack Obama. I repeat: NEITHER ANSWER BENEFITS BARRACK OBAMA.

She has not replied for a lot of potential reasons, she didn't get the email, she gets a lot and ignored it, she doesn't remember, she doesn't care, etc. The simplest explanation is that Ms Guthrie was a useful idiot set up to provide eyewitness testimony without also providing too much evidence. She took the lowest possible resolution snap (probably with her cell phone). That snap lacked proper lighting, her second "closeup snap" was only for a useless portion of the doc (didn't include the seal or the smiley A Alvin rubber stamp. Her examination of the doc and the seal in particular was made with complete ignorance of what to look for.

I still don't believe this is anything more than one of the many deliberate attempts to obfuscate, redirect and obscure the evidence. That is not proof of fogery, but certainly doesn't rule it out either. But the best explanation of the layers is that a "real" doc came from Hawaii, was scanned, then turned into layers. That also explains what Guthrie saw and touched. The second doc with a different rubber stamp (not much of a smile in the A) is probably the second certified copy sent from Hawaii. But it has no detectable seal (could be the way it was scanned).

One more thing I would add is that I don't know if Miss Tickly published the letters she sent to officials and Guthrie, but if they are anything like her description of them (e.g. talking about the Fact Check seal to Guthrie), then they are far more complicated than they need to be. Does Guthrie really need a lecture on the Fact Check seal?

[ml/nj]

It proves, IMO, that the statement by the HDoH employee is accurate.

What do you think about the "accuracy" of this one:

Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files

Source: msnbc

ML/NJ

[conservativegramma]

Tell that to your buddies. Y’all started the attacking and mocking back in 2008. I was minding my own business researching the eligibility issue and discussing it with everyone.

Horsecrap. I've been monitoring these threads and researching this issue since early 2008 as well. Anti-Birthers started mocking birthers from the get-go and you have always been the chief antagonist on every thread I've been reading for those 3 years! And the only time I have ever attacked an anti-birther was in response to that individual having attacked me FIRST! So your statement "Ya'll started the attacking..." BS is what it is - pure horsecrap.

Hint: Your name was on a Troll list I received by freepmail back in October 2008! Now you claim to agree with it? LOL! I guess what you consider 'minding your own business/researching' is what everyone else considers mockery. So perhaps you need to research the definition of mockery.

[conservativegramma]

Holy crap! Seeing these stories convinces me more than ever that Obama is not only not eligible - he’s the most dangerous man to EVER occupy the oval office.

We are in deep I**&(*(**&A. A man who will stoop to threatening the murder of children can easily rigg elections and tramp the constitution into the dust.

We may have already seen our last legitimate election, 2012 will mean absolutely nothing if this man is not removed prior to November of 2012. I’m becoming increasingly convinced of this!

[Hotlanta Mike]

Is that Hussein’s short form COLB bleeding through the image?