Posted on 05/22/2011 4:16:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot
AMSTERDAM (AP) - The Dutch Catholic Church and the Salesian order are investigating revelations that a Salesian priest served on the board of a group that promotes pedophilia with the full knowledge of his boss.
The order's top official in the Netherlands, Delegate Herman Spronck, confirmed in a statement that the priest - identified by RTL Nieuws as 73-year-old "Father Van B." - served on the board of "Martijn," a group that campaigns to end the Dutch ban on adult-child sex.
The group is widely reviled but not outlawed.
"Of course we reject this and distance ourselves from this personal initiative" on the part of the priest, Spronck said in a statement. "Membership in such organizations does not fit with the ethos of the Salesian order."
However, Spronck's own superior in Belgium said he will investigate both Spronck and Van B., after both men were quoted by RTL Nieuws as saying such relationships aren't always harmful.
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"Society thinks these relationships are harmful. I disagree," RTL quoted Van B. as saying. He served on Martijn's board from 2008 until 2010, when its founder was arrested for alleged possession of child pornography, a case that is ongoing...
In a second interview, RTL quoted Spronck as saying he was aware of Van B.'s pedophilia and membership in Martijn, and even of two instances where the priest had been fined by police for exposing himself in public. But he said he didn't think that was sufficient reason to ban him from the order.
"Removing someone from the order is something you would only do in the case of grave moral transgression, such as rape. There was never any question of that," Spronck was quoted as saying.
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...served on the board of "Martijn," a group that campaigns to end the Dutch ban on adult-child sex.
Dittos
Well, then, there's another issue then and that would be the integrity of the priests responding to the surveys.
Just why would they lie and say that they're gay if they're not? Even considering that I could not even imagine someone who was not homosexual claiming that they were, they'd have to realize how that would reflect on the Church if they claimed it.
So the choices are that either the priests really are homosexual at the rate which they are reporting or they are liars at the rate at which they're reporting being homosexual.
Not a good scenario either way.
You made a typo: “A prepubescent boy who is the subject of lust by a priest is a “condition” of “Ephebophilia”, right? Not Pedophilia?” It’s post-pubescent and then you’d be correct. My point wasn’t to excuse those who abuse children but to point out the media’s deception in the use of the term pedophile to hide the fact that most of these individuals are gay men praying on defenseless boys and in the case of a Priest are under their control due to the Priests position. It’s statutory or real rape under the color of authority in addition to being a sin. It’s also a violation of their orders.
Many didn’t return the surveys, so there wasn’t that large a ‘sample’.
Raping a boy who is 13 is just as evil as raping a boy who is 11.
It is the homosexuals who have put up this "distinction" in ages. It is sick, evil, and twisted. Why you help perpetuate it is beyond me.
It is all child abuse. These are children. Children. Kids. Boys.
For crying out loud..........
Some "vicar of Christ." He won't even fire priests who are homosexuals and child abusers? He has the power - and don't tell me he doesn't.
I noticed that.
OTOH, I'd expect the ones who didn't have anything to hide would be more likely to return it just to make sure that it reflects positively on the priests and Catholic church, but that's just my opinion and that opinion would hold true for any church or organization that takes a stand against homosexuality.
I know that when there are online polls posted on FR, I always make sure to vote so the conservative vote is counted and people know that there are those of us out there who do NOT swallow the liberal MSM koolaid.
In reality, there is nothing that can be accurately presumed either way about those who didn't respond. However, the results of the two polls were pretty consistent with each other.
Even if ALL the other priests were 100% heterosexual, that still leaves an alarming percentage who admit to being homosexual.
Are there other polls that contest those two?
There is a special place in hell for scum like this.
of course it’s just as wrong and just as evil. I never said or thought it wasn’t. I’m not perpetuating anything. When you hide the truth you help evil.
The same pattern by the media applies to the Boy Scouts. Those Scout “leaders” who go after the boys under their control aren’t pedophiles they are gay men (closeted or open) who are praying on young boys. This gets hidden from the public and the public debate over the issue. Not all gay men like or pray on young boys, but you have to recognize the threat to deal with it. The hiding of what’s really going on by the media is deliberate.
Once again, the homosexual invasion of churches is denied by the progs and the libs. I wonder why?
According to them, he'll be a Catholic Christian forever...
HaHaHa...So the pope says you can't pick out individual scriptures that condemn him and his religion...
It's not so shocking that their pope would say this, but that intelligent people who can read actually fall for this...
Shock No surprises after Dutch priest endorses pedophilia, allowed to remain priest.
And it would be your pope's prerogative to fire any bishop who allowed this to go on in any diocese...
>>>This is not a Catholic priest. <<<
Until such time as he’s defrocked he *is* a Catholic priest.
And, so far, seems the Church has no problem with this.
Polygamy was just fine in the Old Testament and while it’s not a modern practice, to call it a sin by associating it with sins is to reject the Old Testament and Jesus never did that.
Also, I doubt the liberal feminists will ever be tolerant of polygamy.
Actions speak louder than words.
You know, that doesn't even really SAY anything.
I think it’s sick that you appear to rejoice in cases of pedophilia or pederasty for use in your bigoted campaign against the Catholic Church.
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