Posted on 05/02/2011 7:44:19 PM PDT by MplsSteve
Canadian voters have delivered Conservative Leader Stephen Harper another election night victory, but it is still too close to call whether he will head a minority or majority government, CBC News projects. Meanwhile NDP Leader Jack Layton was set to become Official Opposition leader.
The NDP, according to projections, made a major breakthrough and appeared to have more than doubled their seat count, while the Liberals were poised to suffer a major electoral loss.
As of 10:25 p.m. EST, the Conservatives were leading or elected in 152 seats, followed by the NDP with 100, Liberals with 30 and the Bloc with four.
In Quebec, Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe was trailing behind NDP candidate Hélène Laverdière in the riding of Laurier-Sainte-Marie, in what was shaping out to be a disastrous night for the sovereignist party.
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wow.
Interesting results. Sounds like good news, hopefully.
The Liberals are Socialist, the NDP are outright Stalinist. This election may have given the Tories a majority, but it also means the electorate is badly divided between centrist (Tories) and extreme left (NDP).
Strange comment considering who the US President is and who holds power in the US Senate.
If Layton were PM Obama wouldn’t be the worst leader in North America. He’s unfortunately viewed as “likable” “want to have a beer with him” or hit the massage parlor with him.
More than half on the NPD seats are from mercurial QCrapbec which may as well be on another planet. The Conservatives actually lost 5 of their 11 seats there and got only 16% of the vote.
We’ll see if NPD stays as the main left party or whether the Liberals make a comeback. It’s 42-27 NPD-Liberal outside of La Crap Province. Only 4 Liberals west of Ontario.
NPD taking votes from the Liberals really helped in the Toronto area. Without their rise in the polls it may have been another minority government.
Forcing voters to endure a fourth election in seven years? I'll say.
“Oh, North Minehead’s Conservative, isn’t it?”
Wow! What a great night!
Ping!
I don’t know if this is the correct assumption and correct me if wrong, but you don’t see a lot of people immigrating (legal or illegal) to Canada to get a free ride.
With more people to steer the ship rather than just riding in it, you can understand why they could afford to be more “statist and socialist” overall. They just don’t have the amount of people not pulling their weight that we do.
It sounds like this was almost the Canadian version of Nov. 2 which is pretty neat.
They won 167 as of this morning with 103 for the Dippers, 31 for the Liberals and 3 for the Bloc.
That should allow them to get much of the agenda that was blocked the last several years through the new House Of Commons easily. Its a comfortable majority to work with for the next four years.
It was an unnecessary election called on a flimsy ethics charge no one believed.
It backfired on the Liberals and the Bloc who were supposed to be its principal beneficiaries.
When they passed the no-confidence motion in late March, Iggy and Duceppe were at the top of the world.
They single-handedly obliterated their own political parties. That’s what you get when you have fools for leaders!
Interesting how “Red” signifies the Left, except in the U.S. Over here, it’s become the color of conservatives, who are the most anti-Marxist faction.
So, the leader of the opposition is an ultra lefty who was caught during a police raid, naked in a massage parlour that had been busted for prostitution - needless to say NDP voters love him for it, he’s just their type.
I never voted for Obama... Many who did were anti-Bush, not anti-Republican.
I agree the Liberals are socialists and the NDP Stalinists, but you forgot to mention that the Tories are statists. Canada managed to avoid the US meltdown for one reason: our banks were not forced to offer risky mortgages to those who couldn’t possibly afford it. Accordingly, we didn’t get the housing collapse which precipitated your banking collapse and the other spin off disasters. We did, however, spend billions to participate in the GM/Chrysler bailout and went from a surplus to $60 billion deficit in order to “stimulate” the economy. I give him no credit simply because he refrained from following Obama (which would have given us a $175 billion deficit).
The supposedly “conservative” Harper government engaged in reckless spending increases over its first 6 years in office, appeased the Quebec separitists with declarations of Quebec “nation” status, continued to import hundreds of thousands of muslims and sikhs who are intent on transforming our culture, barred its own MPs from evening raising contentious issues such as abortion and homosexual marriage, continued the ruinous practice of transfer payments from rich to poor provinces (thereby giving an incentive to the poor provinces to remain poor), introduced legislation which will undermine internet privacy, and pledged undying allegiance to our Stalinist healthcare system.
Harper may be a better alternative to the NDP, but he is no conservative. And now that he has a majority founded on increased seats among urban dwellers and ethnic voting blocks, look for him to move the Tories even closer to the “centre”. Conservatism simply does not exist as a viable political philosophy in Canada.
About time for Harper to finally get an outright majority. Seems like hes been governing by plurality forever. When did they get rid of Paul Martin? Around when the Iraq War started if I recall correctly. This latest election does sound eerily similar to what happened next door in our November mid-terms. Big win for conservatives and the blue-dog centrist liberals get crushed. Lots of new renegage Republicans in power, and a sizable number of RINOs manage to get themselves nominated and slip in with the rest of the party.
>> Socialist NPD is now in second place for the first time. Theyve almost swept Quebec. More than half on the NPD seats are from mercurial QCrapbec which may as well be on another planet. The Conservatives actually lost 5 of their 11 seats there and got only 16% of the vote. Well see if NPD stays as the main left party or whether the Liberals make a comeback. Its 42-27 NPD-Liberal outside of La Crap Province. Only 4 Liberals west of Ontario. NPD taking votes from the Liberals really helped in the Toronto area. Without their rise in the polls it may have been another minority government. If Layton were PM Obama wouldnt be the worst leader in North America. Hes unfortunately viewed as likable want to have a beer with him or hit the massage parlor with him. <<
Layton is a blowhard commie, but from seeing what happened when they tried to join forces with the other two parties to topple Harpers government, Layton did sound like the most competent and credible of the three. It made me wonder why Liberals were much larger than NPD when NPD was more disciplined, had a much better spokesman leading them, and a more coherent policy platform. Guess this answers the question.
>> Liberals are now a rump. Their leader lost his own seat as well. He had the perfect pedigree to be a Prime Minister. LOL. <<
Hold on the Canadian Liberals managed to find someone WORSE than Stephane I fart for you Dion to lead them in this election? How is that possible?!
>> The separatist bloc is all but dead. Their clownish leader lost his own seat. An NPD college student who doesnt speak French and just got back from Vegas won a Quebec seat>
Odd, again from my impressions of the leaders during the constitution crisis when they tried to topple the Harper government Gilles Duceppe came across as a very articulate, reasonable, likeable guy, despite his wacko policies. A rational man leading a fringe party, kinda like if the Libertarians here appointed Neal Boortz to lead them. The leader of a Quebec-only French separatist party spoke better English than the leader of the natural governing party for all of Canada (Dion).
>> Eerily similar to the Labour party displacing he Liberal Party in the UK many decades ago. The Green party leader, a stupid slag who thinks children should vote, may be elected in British Columbia. <<
Looks like the Bloc got crushed in their native Quebec, and are now down to only four seats. Canada may become more U.S.-like in the future, with the Greens replacing the Bloc as the biggest minor party that has no chance of running government. I think that might be a positive thing, it makes little sense to have a national party that only runs candidates in one provience and who is dedicated to dismantling the country they seek to govern. Besides, if Quebec left, Canada would be in two pieces, like the problem with trying to form a Palestinian state out of the West Bank and Gaza. Just look at the secessionist nuts on FR who claim slavery had nothing to do with the civil war Im glad we dont have own Bloc in America, theyd win a couple southern states in the electoral college ala Storm Thurmond 48, and the RATs would won win every national election by plurality.
>> The Conservatives share values with the GOP here in terms of foreign policy. What they do internally is a reflection of the difference in culture of the USA and Canada. Remember at the time of our revolution, the loyalists went to what is now Canada... They will always be more statist and socialist - it is in the Canadian blood, just as we have our entrepreneurial individuality. The Liberals are Socialist, the NDP are outright Stalinist. This election may have given the Tories a majority, but it also means the electorate is badly divided between centrist (Tories) and extreme left (NDP). <<
Confusing generally the rule of thumb is the pro-royals and loyalist parties tend to be more conservative than the people who want a Republic, an exception being the US because of the way this country was born in 1776. But even here, there were a lot of conservatives fawning over the Royal wedding last week because it maintained the U.K.s traditions and Christian heritage. In Ireland, anyone anti-monarchy is a socialist. Ick. I wouldnt be happy living there and have to choose between kissing the Queens butt and living under protestant rule, or wanting independence under a socialist Catholic government. In Canada, even though theyre still technically part of the british empire, its really become meangingless, hasnt it? They dont even have the union jack on their flag anymore. I think the Queen might still be on Canadian currency though.
>> Interesting how Red signifies the Left, except in the U.S. Over here, its become the color of conservatives, who are the most anti-Marxist faction. <<
Yes, Canada still has the correct colors where blue is conservative (also, blue is generally associated with royality, again), and red is socialist/Marxist/commie/left-wing. Since theyre right across the border, I wish the color scheme would rub off on the U.S. more.
Thanks for the heads up. Gives me a chance to spell Ignatieff right. Leader of the Liberal Party. Ignatiev was a Russian world record track holder in the 1950's.
It might seem strange to our American friends that we have a Bloc Party. Paid handsome salaries by the Canadian taxpayer with vested pensions at 45 years of age. Of course they believe in separating Quebec from the rest of Canada.
To quote a Sir John someone, many years ago.
"Some might call it treason". LOL.
That’s why I called them “centrist” and not “right wing.” ;-)
Of course, even a rightist government will take decades to undo the damage that Nazi Trudeau caused. I see his progeny held on to his riding in PQ.
Funny that the NDP color is orange. I’d give the Grits a red color and the Dips an even redder one (with a hammer and sickle and smiling Uncle Joe or Mao, whichever works... maybe Che ?).
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