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Speakers question science behind lizard concerns (Dunes Sagebrush Lizard)
Midland Reporter-Telegram ^ | 27 April 2011 | Mella McEwan

Posted on 04/28/2011 8:06:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps

A respectful crowd of Permian Basin residents gathered at Midland Center on Wednesday to speak at a public hearing about the listing of the dunes sagebrush lizard as an endangered species.

The listing possibly could shut down oil and gas, grazing and farming operations in Andrews, Crane, Gaines, Ward and Winkler counties in West Texas and Chaves, Eddy, Lea and Roosevelt counties in New Mexico.

The hearing was conducted by officials with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, overseen by Jeff Humphrey, public outreach specialist with the service out of Arizona.

Wally Murphy, New Mexico state field supervisor, told the audience that the lizard, which lives in a narrow band of shinnery oak dunes that stretches primarily from New Mexico into parts of Texas, had been considered a candidate for listing in 2001 and cited threats from habitat fragmentation, pollution, predation and climate change. If listed, he said, operations would be prohibited that could interrupt its breeding, eating or sheltering in habitat areas where the lizard is found.

(Excerpt) Read more at mywesttexas.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: energy; lizard; oil; permianbasin; sagebrushlizard; texas
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To: I see my hands

That just means that the audience did not strangle the gooberment weenies in public.


21 posted on 04/28/2011 8:35:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Charlespg
find and kill as many of the dammed things as possible

Kill all the lizards and kill them now!
22 posted on 04/28/2011 8:40:58 PM PDT by cyberbo2004 (people pay taxes, not corporations.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Oh, yeah...don’t wanna forget those. Sweetwater’s economy would
be devastated if THEY were shut down. Just wait till an
endangered bird manages to fly into one of ‘em! Then they
won’t be so precious any more!


23 posted on 04/28/2011 8:42:54 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: Deaf Smith

We have one of the largest oak forests in the world just west
of us in the Sandhills. None of the trees over 2 feet high...
good ole shinnery oak! :) Those lizards can stay there...it’s
a national park. This is entirely a bogus issue...as most of
these hand-wringing useful idiots KNOW they are!


24 posted on 04/28/2011 8:46:11 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: Army Air Corps
public outreach specialist.

I just HATE P.C. government speak job descriptions. Let me translate. Tree hugging Government hack propagandist liar.

25 posted on 04/28/2011 8:46:30 PM PDT by johnny reb (A Trillion seconds is 32,000 Years!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Obama and the democrats could give a rat’s patootie about some lizard.

The only issue is how to destroy free enterprise, energy production, and personal freedom, of which Texas has a lot.


26 posted on 04/28/2011 8:46:46 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: johnny reb

Isn’t that job title just another way of saying “PR Hack”?


27 posted on 04/28/2011 8:50:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: LUV W

I was trying to find a link for that from TP&W. Shinnery is everywhere out west as is that lizard.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 8:52:12 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: FormerACLUmember
Oh, there is more:

Midland City Councilman Jeff Sparks said listing the lizard would affect more than jobs. "Midland secured water rights in Winkler County and has been working on a way to bring that water to Midland, we've been working on it for some time. If you list the lizard, not only will we not have jobs, we won't have water. Then the endangered species will be the people of West Texas."
29 posted on 04/28/2011 8:53:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Charlespg

I was thinking of offering hunting expeditions in the Texas side with the sand hills. 4 seat dune buggy can carry 3 shooters. No limit, no guarantees.

In the past 40 years that I have run buggies over there I have never, ever seen one of these things.


30 posted on 04/28/2011 8:54:23 PM PDT by biff
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To: Army Air Corps
Pic of the lizard in question.
31 posted on 04/28/2011 8:55:21 PM PDT by Redcitizen (In case of economic breakdown, make sure you have a case of Snickers candy bars.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
This also affects higher education in the state:

Representatives with University Lands, which oversees the 2.1 million acres of land owned by the University of Texas System, said the listing would have an impact on higher education in Texas. Senior Geologist Doc Weathers said the listing could result in 1,000 oil and gas wells not being drilled and seven million barrels of oil equivalent in lost production annually.
32 posted on 04/28/2011 8:56:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: LUV W
This would pimp his favorite project—green mini-cars that are absolutely useless out here.

Look for Obummer to push the Green Thing, like it would have survived these matters better

33 posted on 04/28/2011 8:57:40 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Deaf Smith

Lots of shinnery north of Abilene, too. My grandmother and
aunts used to go out into that area, because there were also
blackberries (or dewberries) growing there. Rattlesnakes loved
it there, too. Probably loved having the dunes sagebrush lizard
for lunch! LOL! Now....do we eliminate them for EATING the
silly lizard?


34 posted on 04/28/2011 8:58:41 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: Army Air Corps

Obama and that evil illegal Energy Czar get to incredible damage to Texas with any bullsh*t lizard protection.


35 posted on 04/28/2011 9:00:46 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: mylife

Oh, he will. He’s in the pocket of the ones who want them
sold and what better way to create a market for something
useless than to shut down the market for efficient machines.


36 posted on 04/28/2011 9:01:51 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: LUV W

We were hell on that lizard with BB guns along with the Six Lined Racer back when we were kids.


37 posted on 04/28/2011 9:01:51 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: LUV W

I saw some fat *** dewberries today, but they was on the other side of the bar ditch.

Wasnt worth the effort, but they will be coming on soon


38 posted on 04/28/2011 9:05:05 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Deaf Smith

Gosh, and they even managed to survive boys with BB guns!

That JUST proves my point....or you’ll be arrested any day
now for your childhood “crime”! :)


39 posted on 04/28/2011 9:13:58 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: mylife

They do make yummy pies, all the sweeter for the scratches you get from their thorns!

Leave some for the lizards. *grin*


40 posted on 04/28/2011 9:15:19 PM PDT by luvie (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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