Posted on 04/10/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by Nachum
Comments follow statements by Donald Trump questioning legitimacy of president's birth record
The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.
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House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan defended his plan to redesign the governments biggest health insurance plans on NBCs Meet the Press Sunday, saying it was necessary to avert a sovereign debt crisis. Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims NYT: In budget deal, Obama takes middle path NYT: Next up for Washington: Fight over debt NJ: A blow to Boehner, Obama and the nation
"Its kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.
Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.
Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."
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‘Ludicrous’ is actually quite an accurate term to describe this whole bizarre situation and in fact typifies the national nightmare that is the Obama presidency.
Interesting question. It doesn't appear that she wants to be directly quoted on this.
Ping
Were you the Freeper who got their long form birth certificate from Hawaii?
Yeah? What pray tell
Not a coincidence that BillyBob Clinton got the same talking points with the word: “LUDICROUS” as the prominent pivot parse.
“...why dont they have a direct, unequivocal quote: I went to the records room, pulled the original bound volume of birth records for August 1961 and found the original long form birth certificate for Barrack Obama”
That statement would present a problem for Governor Abercrombie. LOL.
If any PI who takes the job, he/she will be threatened until he/she quits or "found nothing" or eventually murdered.
I have the feeling that Trump has something, at least to protect himself. Would he share it with the people? That's good question.
I believe HI states its form Certification is insufficient as proof of citizenship by one applying for certain HI programs - land grants if I recall correctly. If that is what HI states, then what HI BC form or documentation available to applicants would Joshua Wisch say is sufficient?
Perhaps the only other party who has timely enforceable request rights is the Congress via subpoena, and the proper documentation to be requested is all birth documents whether by it or any state or foreign authority?
That and going to jail.
That is a lie. The twins that were born on the same day have a long form BC and their mother proudly paraded it all over the internet:
http://www.saltandlightblog.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-era-birth-certificate.jpg
they changed land grants to accept COLB’s after HDOH changed to just normally supplying short forms. If you askl for a copy of a long form they have to give it to you if its yours ...
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/HawaiiRules.htm
“The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. (Obama was “testy” when asked to sign the form but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said.”
This is so bizarre (as usual). Who would initially be annoyed that you had to provide a birth certificate? In 2007 he was annoyed?
The whole controversy only began(mid-2008) when it was noticed that he hadn’t supplied any birth information to any public source.
I believe it was the St. Petersburg Times that were the first (maybe only) newspaper to ask the Obama campaign to supply them with information. They were referred to the Daily Kos & Fight The Smears site.
Why the hell was he testy???
"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.
This sounds like legalese and spin.
In fact, Wisch is stating the obvious. It's obvious that NO STATE will allow the release of the ORIGINAL birth certificate. They will always keep the original on file.
When requested, however, they release a copy of the original with a state seal on it. Don't even know why Wisch brings up a photocopy...that's never done. I think he's trying to confuse the issue.
Thanks. Yes, I should have kept reading your posts, had interruptions between the start and finish of my last.
This already happened to UberCommie, the HI governor! He fell silent after threatening to shut the "birthers" for good!
UberCommie "couldn't find" anything! LOL!
Then he shut up, presumably because he was told to shut his rhino trap!
Well, of course you can. These people are straight out lying for Zero, and trying to keep the uniformed masses confused about the matter.
You jogged my memory on Danae's post. She mentioned the fact that she applied for, and received a copy of her Hawaiian long form bc, just the other day.
You've got to wonder what Hawaiian libs are thinking, hearing these people tell these bald-faced lies on television. They know better. I wonder if the penny isn't dropping for some of them.
well, except for show the birth certificate...
...but that is not the point! cant you see how stupid you are?
oh- and we did lie about people having seen the actual birth certificate...BUT YOU ARE STILL SO stoopid- cant you see that?
His own wife and grandmother were lieing when they said he was born in kenya. So was his web site~! BELIEVE US not them, you stupid stupid people...
oh and his father was not really a British citizen either... uh, we saw his birth certificate too. we swear~!!
And he never even went to Indonesia school only for indonesian citizens, under the name Barry Soerto. And he was not disbarred for lieing too - and neither was his wife~ They both GAVE UP their law licenses... because they are such a bother to have anyway, and besides who really needs one
you stupidheads
sounds like Donald is getting close to the unholy grail.
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