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Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims
msDNC ^ | 4/10/11 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 04/10/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by Nachum

Comments follow statements by Donald Trump questioning legitimacy of president's birth record

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

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"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; denounces; drchiyomefukino; fukifino; fukino; hawaii; isikoff; ludicrous; naturalborncitizen; official; trump
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To: Nachum
The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists"

So can we see it? Why won't you post it on the web? If they can post the COLB they can post the long form. Period -- end of smear campaign.

41 posted on 04/10/2011 10:24:40 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Nachum

OK, so Obama should have no trouble authorizing the DOH to provide a certified copy of the long form and his other records to the governor of Hawaii. Why didn’t he do this back when Gov. Abercrombie claimed to be trying to put the issue rest earlier this year?


42 posted on 04/10/2011 10:24:47 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: All
Idiot!! We don't want it RELEASED, we want it SHOWN!! Stupido!
43 posted on 04/10/2011 10:24:57 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Nachum
Your DNC talking point of the moment

Has to be part of the WH plan since they had just sent out a spokesperson to talk on the issue recently. No coicidence.

Anybody who wants this go get even more exposed. Post links and or comments on USENET FORMUMS and they WILL become the results in Google search

44 posted on 04/10/2011 10:26:33 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Nachum

okay....forget the BC....let’s see the Passport History....


45 posted on 04/10/2011 10:26:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: JoeProBono

Yea....I believe this person.....right.....is the Dr. honorary?


46 posted on 04/10/2011 10:27:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Nachum

What needs to happen is Americans enmasse mail and email this Hawaiian official and challenge/dare them to prove Bammy’s citizenship by simply producing his long form BC and to stop the blustering and obfuscating. Make them hateful and sarcastic poking fun at how moronic and idiotic they are making themselves look by trying to protect their Dear Leader.

Oh yeah. Get the phone number and leave lots of voicemails and keep her office so busy with it all that they just finally give up and release it. We have to be relentless.


47 posted on 04/10/2011 10:27:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Nachum

What is missing from ALL the Hawaiian official statements so far? There’s at least one normal thing that gets addressed in such responses that they haven’t ever addressed.


48 posted on 04/10/2011 10:29:11 AM PDT by bvw
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To: rolling_stone
if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated “certification of live birth” form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

First of all, that image of the alleged Obama COLB that was put up on the internet has been proven to be fake, so NO, Obama didn't "fill out a form" to obtain it.

Secondly, the short form bc (COLB) isn't accepted as proof positive of identification by many gov't agencies, and even private institutions. Americans who were born in Hawaii still have to produce their long form birth certs, just like any other Americans. There still must be a mechanism for them to obtain a copy of their long form birth certificate, or they're in a world of hurt.

I was without a valid Texas driver's license for a couple of months, some years back, because the state of Texas accepts ONLY a long form bc as proof of identity.

Now, what if I'd been born in Hawaii, and my long form had gone missing? I'd be screwed, if Hawaii would only give me a COLB.

49 posted on 04/10/2011 10:29:24 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: goodnesswins

And transcripts, theses, voting records, appointment calendars, call records, tax returns before becoming President.....etc. The whole damned nine yards....they did this to Bush.


50 posted on 04/10/2011 10:30:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said."

Idiot!! We don't want it RELEASED, we want it SHOWN!! Stupido!

51 posted on 04/10/2011 10:31:27 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Godebert
Why is Trump afraid to say the words "natural born Citizen"?

I doubt that Trump is afraid to say the words, "Natural Born Citizen". He's just not as educated on this issue, as the average Freeper is.

Give him another week or two to get up to speed.

52 posted on 04/10/2011 10:32:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum
Ludicrous?

This is not going away.

What is he Hiding and Why?

53 posted on 04/10/2011 10:34:07 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: dila813
Reread the whole story. Sloppy reporting, at best. So many opportunities to press for better details.
54 posted on 04/10/2011 10:35:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mojito
If there isn't a long-form BC (which at this point seems likely), just what did they use to issue the electronically-generated birth “certification” document?

"They" didn't issue anything. Obama's campaign drones produced his COLB on a computer.

They did a terrible job, by the way. That thing has been picked apart by experts, and been proven to be fake.

55 posted on 04/10/2011 10:35:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum

“It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,” Fukino said.

There were three little green men, grayish with large eyes. They came down from a hovering craft using some kind of tractor beam. It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that.


56 posted on 04/10/2011 10:35:50 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Winning 24/7, Tiger's blood)
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To: Windflier
The Spokesman for the AG’;s office was mistaken you can still get a long form, one of the obot rolls (now zotted) ponied up a $200 donation to FR on a bet with me..he/she lost. A freeper here Danae received and showed her long form..if the Ag doesn't know what they are talking about what does that tell you about Hawaii?

Also until I believe august 2009 long forms were NEEDED by Hawaiians for their special applications for Hawaii Homelands. HDOH changed that without notice in what can only be described as a suspicious activity as a front to pretend long forms were no longer available. I am concerned maybe now they have put a forgery in place after Abercrumbs slip up...

57 posted on 04/10/2011 10:37:30 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Smokeyblue
I'm confused ...

The first is that the original so-called “long form” birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32180625/ns/politics-white_house/

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said she hoped to end lingering rumors about Obama’s birthplace.

“I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” she said in a brief statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

58 posted on 04/10/2011 10:38:27 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jackibutterfly
“It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said."

Idiot!! We don't want it RELEASED, we want it SHOWN!! Stupido!

Well, that is the award-winning comment of the day ...

And not in a good way ...

59 posted on 04/10/2011 10:40:40 AM PDT by x
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To: Siena Dreaming

Why is this written in the third person? She found...If they interviewed her why don’t they have a direct, unequivocal quote: “I went to the records room, pulled the original bound volume of birth records for August 1961 and found the original long form birth certificate for Barrack Obama, properly filled out by the registrar and the attending obstetrician and bearing the original seal of the Office of Vital Statistics...”


60 posted on 04/10/2011 10:42:25 AM PDT by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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