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Breakfast with the BATFE; Mexican journalist asks Obama to 'veto' 2nd Amendment
St Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 4 March, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 03/05/2011 4:13:54 AM PST by marktwain

If top officials in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE)--and, for that matter, in the Department of Justice (and Department of State?)--had thought that media (and congressional) scrutiny of the growing "Project Gunwalker" scandal would go no further than the CBS Evening News segment of Feb. 23, then last night's follow-up must have come as a nasty shock. So, too, must be new articles in the Los Angeles Times, and from the Center for Public Integrity.

Last night's CBS story featured courageous whistleblowing Agent John Dodson, who laid out in stark detail just how callously BATFE leadership "walked" guns into Mexico:

Dodson feels that ATF was partly to blame for the escalating violence in Mexico and on the border. "I even asked them if they could see the correlation between the two," he said. "The more our guys buy, the more violence we're having down there."

Senior agents including Dodson told CBS News they confronted their supervisors over and over.

Their answer, according to Dodson, was, "If you're going to make an omelette, you've got to break some eggs."

That's right: to BATFE leadership, the nameless, faceless (and countless) dead in Mexico--and Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry (who was armed with beanbags), and quite possibly Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata--were "eggs" that the BATFE had to "break."

In fact, as objections from field agents mounted, a supervisor sent out an email telling them that, "If you don't think this is fun you're in the wrong line of work." It should, evidently, be fun to "break some eggs."

It is beginning to look as if, rather than a tasty breakfast, the BATFE's "omelette" will be served as just desserts.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; atf; banglist; batfe; blogpimp; constitution; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; liberalfascism; mexico; mexicoborder; obama; obamafailure; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: marktwain

You can forget about fubo’s birth certificate, or his unwillingness to protect and enforce the constitution... the murder of a federal agent, along with the cover up, and the blatant violation of international treaties, are all impeachable offenses..... at a minimum, janet nap and the asshole holder are in prison, unless pardoned by fubo....when the SHTF, he will be gone. Only problem is we end up with joe bite-me....


21 posted on 03/05/2011 5:55:53 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: Venturer

Y&ou must have missed my sarcasm tag.;^)


22 posted on 03/05/2011 6:04:11 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: TYVets

Well, they’re both maroons. And neither one of them know anything about the constitution.


23 posted on 03/05/2011 6:06:14 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

Well Obama has the same mindset that the Constitution is written in pencil & that parts he doesn’t like can just be erased.


24 posted on 03/05/2011 6:43:02 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: BuffaloJack

Mexico- maintaining constant failed-nation status since independence!


25 posted on 03/05/2011 8:21:41 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Venturer
I never ever thought that I'd almost welcome a military coup d'etat. But this president dictator has gone too far.
26 posted on 03/05/2011 8:45:21 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: marktwain

The Mexican Urinalist like many of the US Urinalists proved that he is dumber than a pan of refried beans.


27 posted on 03/05/2011 9:50:28 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: marktwain
The Mexican Constitution says that the people have the right to have guns ... subject to the government deciding if they should or not... effectively rendering the guarantee is worthless.

Fixed. Mexico is lawless.

As for the BATFE, it is mostly made up of thugs. It wants to give the impression that it is legal gun sales in this country that are leading to deaths in Mexico. The only surprising part of this story is that CBS decided not to play along and exposed this evil plan.

28 posted on 03/05/2011 10:29:04 AM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: joe fonebone

>and the blatant violation of international treaties, are all impeachable offenses.

Which international treaties?


29 posted on 03/05/2011 11:16:10 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: saganite

>Well, they’re both maroons. And neither one of them know anything about the constitution.

Not quite; Obama knows the single most important thing about the Constitution: it isn’t worth jack-shit unless it is upheld/enforced.
Sadly his assumption that such is the case has been largely correct. (Witness Obamacare.)


30 posted on 03/05/2011 11:18:35 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

with mexico....they allowed arms to enter the country illegally without notifying the mexican government...and when the asked, holder told them to go to hell.....


31 posted on 03/05/2011 12:46:10 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: joe fonebone
with mexico....they allowed arms to enter the country illegally without notifying the mexican government...and when the asked, holder told them to go to hell.....

Thank you... that raises some VERY interesting points.
Project Gunwalker could be investigated tangentially/in-parallel via this information. Instead of focusing on the "letting guns into hands of criminals who used them to murder a BP agent" the focus of the letting portion could be brought into view. {I am unhopeful on the indictment/conviction of BATFE members for providing weapons which were used in murders as they can claim that "we are not responsible for the actions of others," which is technically true. The willful violation of an international-treaty, however, cannot be so weaseled out.}

32 posted on 03/05/2011 12:55:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain
From your source article, the money quote:

Basically, he asks why Obama doesn't "veto" the American people's right to keep and bear arms. Obama did not answer, "I wish it were that easy," but it's not hard to imagine that he was thinking along those lines. Instead, he dodged with, "I believe in the Second Amendment," but that there are ways to interdict gun trafficking without violating the right to keep and bear arms (not having the federal gun law enforcement agency actively participate in that trafficking might help, eh, Mr. President?).

To retrieve that one, I had to cut through a bunch of the source site's fully-animated banner advertising (broadband media dreck). Websites are getting worse and worse about hosing people's bandwidth.

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33 posted on 03/06/2011 10:53:52 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: BuffaloJack
After Zachary Taylor defeated the Mexicans, we should never have given Mexico back. It would have been a territory and then, eventually, states; and all these problems we have would have gone away.

Not unless we kicked all the people out and forced them to migrate down to the Valley of Mexico, or even Tehuantepec.

The real estate isn't the problem, it's the people. It's their culture. As Californians have found out, and Illinoisans, Georgians, and Jerseyites are beginning to.

34 posted on 03/06/2011 11:10:25 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: mewzilla

Good link. Thanks for the post.


35 posted on 03/06/2011 11:40:29 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
“To retrieve that one, I had to cut through a bunch of the source site's fully-animated banner advertising (broadband media dreck). Websites are getting worse and worse about hosing people's bandwidth.”

Yes, the Examiner is pretty bad that way. It doesn't bother me as much because I use a Linux operating system. That is how they make their money, though.

Until someone figures out a better way, it is what is being used.

36 posted on 03/06/2011 1:19:35 PM PST by marktwain
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