Posted on 02/11/2011 1:53:50 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Hosni Mubarak had harsh words for the United States and what he described as its misguided quest for democracy in the Middle East in a telephone call with an Israeli lawmaker a day before he quit as Egypt's president. The legislator, former cabinet minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, said on TV Friday that he came away from the 20-minute conversation on Thursday with the feeling the 82-year-old leader realized "it was the end of the Mubarak era". "He had very tough things to say about the United States," said Ben-Eliezer, a member of the Labor Party who has held talks with Mubarak on numerous occasions while serving in various Israeli coalition governments. "He gave me a lesson in democracy and said: 'We see the democracy the United States spearheaded in Iran and with Hamas, in Gaza, and that's the fate of the Middle East,'" Ben-Eliezer said. "'They may be talking about democracy but they don't know what they're talking about and the result will be extremism and radical Islam,'" he quoted Mubarak as saying. U.S. support for pro-democracy elements in Iran has not led to regime change in the Islamic Republic, and Hamas, a group Washington considers to be a terrorist organization, won a 2006 Palestinian election promoted by the United States. Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip in 2007 after a coalition government it formed with Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas collapsed in a power struggle. Ben-Eliezer said Mubarak expanded in the telephone call on "what he expects will happen in the Middle East after his fall". "He contended the snowball (of civil unrest) won't stop in Egypt and it wouldn't skip any Arab country in the Middle East and in the Gulf.
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
His words, even from a dictator, should be a wake-up call to us (or our government at least). He is right about the policies of this administration propping up terrorist regimes. I hope and pray that Egypt gets at least the semblance of a democracy for their trouble.
Stay stupid.
It’s obvious what YOUR motives are.
I am now reading a fascinating book called, "The Bin Ladens", It is about the ENTIRE family and Osama Bin Laden is only a small part of it.
However, the book points out that [while many of the Bin Ladens were educated in the west] Osama came under the sway of his high school teachers in Saudi Arabia.
These teachers were radical Muslims and members of the MB ...
Just sayin' ...
In a purely ideological sense, you have a point. But we made Egypt our business many decades ago.
By your philosophy, would Egypt become our business when they have nuclear strike capability, or say.. when the Suez Canal closes to US traffic, or say... when they start another war with Israel?
Don’t you think that the Iraqi Christians, whatever is left today, would like to turn the clock back and be ruled by Saddam Hussein again?
The Coptic Christians in Egypt have suffered unspeakable persecution. Mothers were rounded up and their babies bashed to pieces in front of them. The whole society is barbaric.
That said, Mubarak is benevalant compared to Hussein, and I believe compared to what Egypt will soon experience.
We’re discussing degrees of Hell.
Believe me, I’m not forming a support group for Mubarak!
My only point being, a Moslem society will only experience social order as it is forced on them.
Hey may be a son of a bitch, but he’s OUR son of a bitch - FDR (apocryphal)
Mubarak: We see the democracy the United States spearheaded in Iran and with Hamas, in Gaza, and that's the fate of the Middle East
I think it’s obvious what your motives are.
I hope somebody can get across to the Egyptians that it isn’t the United States, just as it wasn’t the Germans, but moreover Adolph Hitler and the people he had assembled around him. Even our news people were complicit in what was done. Mubarek was an ally, just as the Shah was an ally.
That's what at least a few around here are hoping for, apparently. ....mistakenly thinking that a Mideast filled with Islamic theocracies is only Israel's problem, not ours. Their understanding of Islam is incomplete, to understate the matter.
Ron! Ron Paul! Good to see ya, buddy!
Sheesh.
I do’t want to meddle either. The problem is that foreigners problems often become ours very quickly. Remember WW’s I and II?
Well now, huckaduck, that rather depends, doesn't it? I mean, *your* spooks go down there and cause blood in the streets, you don't think they might reciprocate?
The stupid pills, are they on prescription?
Well, I think it is only the beginning of reaping....and weeping. I predict that in less than 5 years the Egyptian people will be under sharia law, women will be in burqas and war will be looming with Israel. We will wish we had continued to prop up that ally of the US and the Egyptian people will wish that as well. The media really played a huge part in the revolt—CNN was literally thanked for their help..I question the coverage of this “democracy” movement. Mubarak is no saint for sure, but I suspect like the Shah of Iran, history will judge this as a huge loss for Egyptian freedom, and US and Israel interests. and
The bad economy didn't make Carter a one term President - the debacle in Iran, did Carter in.
I predict Obama ....sealed his ONE TERM this week over his clueless words !! Obama thinks of himself as a Messiah whereby the masses gather to hear his every WORD no matter how worthless those WORDS are !! Little does the IDIOT know ...how the WORLD LAUGHS AT HIS DIPLOMATIC IGNORANCE !! Wait till the price of oil in the Middle East DOUBLES ...we will see how those Obama supporters feel about all those DOLLARS invested in GREEN ENERGY and the shut down of all our oil drilling. Then and only then ......maybe Obama will get the same kind of MuBarak treatment !!
Hey, I’d gladly take the western dollars and innovation away from them and let them fend for themselves.
In that case there will be no dictator and they will all look like Afghanistan. Tribal warfare. Fine by me, I wish we didn’t interfere.
As long as they stay in their own country I don’t care what happens to them. They can behead their wives, stone their people and cut off the hands of thiefs, just don’t expect the western civilized countries to welcome you with open arms. They get no money or technology from us either.
The NWO is getting a little help:
snip—”Unlike other social networking platforms and group collaboration tools, Crabgrass was specifically designed for activists and movement organizers. It is already used by a wide variety of activists and organizations, including the United Nations Development Programme and environmental activists.
Looking further into this software on Riseup.net, I was concerned to find that it appears to be operated by far Left radicals with an agenda for this country and the globe that most would find appalling.”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33178
It was in Iran and it was anti-Israel and anti-American.Free? What is free over there? Ahmadinejad ordered it.
-———Ahmadinejad: Egyptian protests herald new Mideast
Iran’s president said Friday that Egypt’s popular uprising shows a new Islamic-——— http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/11/ahmadinejad-egyptian-protests-herald-new-mideast-1468496696/
The Muslim Brotherhood in which Obama clearly supports and says they are not all bad... said this...
-———Top Muslim Brotherhood Leader: We Need a Leader Like Khomeini-———
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Top-Muslim-Brotherhood-Leader-We-Need-a-Leader-Like-Khomeini-4710227.html
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