Posted on 02/11/2011 1:53:50 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Hosni Mubarak had harsh words for the United States and what he described as its misguided quest for democracy in the Middle East
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Nana the Editor to the rescue...
Hosni Mubarak had harsh words for Barry Dunham-Soetoro and what he described as his misguided quest for democracy in the Middle East
Are you one of those "will of the people" social justice relativists? You KNOW the will of many of the people in the Mideast is to destroy Israel and the US.
Is the "will of the people" a good compass for foreign policy and national security?
Justice is a matter of perspective UNLESS premised upon the Creator.
Waving the "will of the people" banner all by itself is nothing but more of the same hope and change BS that got us marxist in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Further to your comments in post 58, I wonder if this is the “event” that Joe Biden was blabbing about during the 2008 campaign?
I don't know what the truth is here, and I clearly can't trust the media to tell me the truth, so this is very difficult to analyze. What is the ‘will of the people’ in Egypt? Do the people on the street represent the will of most, or even the majority of Egyptians? The only way to accurately ascertain that would be with extremely tightly monitored elections, and we clearly are not going to have those.
Historically, there are many examples in history where a group of very motivated and politically organized people have forced change, even when they were the minority. The Bolsheviks were by no means representative of the majority in Russia, but they helped usher in a regime that led to a realignment of the world, and the deaths of 100s of millions.
During Kristalnacht ‘the people’ took to the streets and destroyed the businesses of law abiding and productive members of society who happened to be Jewish. During the Roman empire crowds of ‘the people’ would decide who was put to death just by giving the ‘thumbs down’ sign. In the fundamental Islamist Middle East 'the people' gather in groups and stone people to death. In our modern US society ‘the people’ have often taken to the streets to overturn cars, loot, and destroy property just to exercise their ‘free will’ of celebrating the victory of their local sports team.
The bottom line, as I see it, is that life is a lot more complicated than we sometimes recognize. The only way to ensure that the ‘will of the people’ is given truthful stature is to have frequent elections that are monitored closely by all, and to have an intensely strict policy of term limits that makes it illegal for anyone to make a career out of politics. The only way to ensure that political candidates are motivated by the right things is to make it unprofitable to be elected, and to emphasize in the strongest terms that politicians are not celebrities, but are there to serve.
If most of the junior officers are members of MB then
the Army is under the control of the MB.
Maybe 1% of the Egyptian population turned out in these protests. Of course, many of them do want only freedom and not Islamic law, but if there are elections how, the whole population votes. And what they will choose is anyone’s guess. Many of the possibilities are bad.
Maybe 1% of the Egyptian population turned out in these protests. Of course, many of them do want only freedom and not Islamic law, but if there are elections now, the whole adult population votes. And what they will choose is anyone’s guess. Many of the possibilities are bad.
I’m one of those who doesn’t want to meddle in other people’s business.
I think you're wrong. The president before Mubarak, Sadat by name, was killed by an MB member who had infiltrated the Egyptian military. I think their military is chock full of MB members. They know where the power in the country resides. They might be crazy/insane/mad, but they ain't that stupid.
Fascism for thee, but not for me. Got it.
It's a shame, but that's often the way things work in the real world.
No ally in the world will now trust the US.
Because it’s better to squash them where they are, instead of trying to catch them at domestic airports before they fly planes into buildings.
Now go fellate your Ron Paul and Lindburg posters.
There was a parade celebrating the 32nd anniversary of the Islamic Revolution in Iran. They also billed it as a solidarity rally for the uprising in Egypt. They were chanting "Death to Israel" and "Death to America"
Idjit. You think you’re rid of Mubarak?
First of all, Mubarak is an Egyptian hero. He was with Anwar Sadat when Sadat was murdered, and he was wounded in the attack. He took over as the one to continue Sadat’s policies.
Second, he’s a war hero. Now he’s done a transfer of power to the military. Well skippy, the transfer was coming anyway (Mubarak is getting old) - and Mubarak *is* the military and vice versa. Power shifts from one hand to the other :). Suleiman, also, *is* the military. The muslim brotherhood, hopefully, is gonna run into fatalities. I just hope the fatalities spread to their foreign backers, and with Suleiman “Havelock Vetinari” in the mix, that’s a distinct possibility.
“You think you’re rid of Mubarak?”
Correct. All that happened is they know they can’t stick out their neck for the US.
Stay classy.
Again, that’s all THEIR problem.
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