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State lawmakers want Obama’s birth records (Arizona's HB2544 & Burges takes 2nd try at birther bill)
SV Herald ^ | 1/29/11 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 01/30/2011 4:01:07 PM PST by Libloather

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Lawmaker takes 2nd try at 'birther bill'
1 posted on 01/30/2011 4:01:15 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The riots are going to awesome.


2 posted on 01/30/2011 4:01:48 PM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: LucyT

PING!


3 posted on 01/30/2011 4:06:46 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Libloather

K?

The issue of dual citizenhip, in regards to Fauxbama, is his birthright citizensip.

He was born with a divided citizenship.

At the time of his birth he was both a British Citizen and an American citizen.

You cannot be two parts of anything and still claim to be whole of another.

BTW, where is that BC he found among his mother’s belongings, upon her passing?


4 posted on 01/30/2011 4:07:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Libloather

The Arizona legislators had better pay close attention to the advice they are getting here. If a Birth Certificate Requirement is passed into law it will be challenged in court and therefore the law needs to be air-tight. I would suggest that a little study of the laws related to the requirements for obtaining a U.S. passport might be advisable.


5 posted on 01/30/2011 4:08:20 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Libloather

“If you were delivered at home with a midwife, does that mean you are no longer qualified to be the president of the United States?” he asked.

It isn’t just about being eligible, it’s about being able to PROVE it. If you can’t prove it then NO, YOU CAN’T BE PRESIDENT.


6 posted on 01/30/2011 4:09:52 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Libloather

Missouri has Hb 238 that was subbmitted on January 24, 2011. This will catch on in many more states.


7 posted on 01/30/2011 4:10:00 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Libloather; All

Way to go Arizona!

Instead of attacking Birthers....I am talking to you, Ann Coulter, Andrew Brokeback, Glenn Beck, and others in GOP Media who attack Birthers....its time to stop supporting Obama and lets get that long-form Birth Certificate

We could have had this Birther issue taken care of a while ago. Too many Fraud Cons and GOP Media have been working with the Obama Supporters to help keep Obama from releasing his real Birth Certificate.

Arizona legislature gets it. Its time for the Obama Supporters to do likewise


8 posted on 01/30/2011 4:10:47 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Michelle Bachmann would make an excellent President)
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9 posted on 01/30/2011 4:13:41 PM PST by umgud
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To: Libloather
Officials in Hawaii released a short-form version of the birth certificate when the issue first arose before the 2008 election.

They did? I don't think anyone claims that photo shopped forgery we see all over the Internet. I have never heard Obama officially claim any specific document as being HIS birth certificate. These are all rumors.

10 posted on 01/30/2011 4:13:46 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Because this is the land of permanent McPain, I actually expect none of this to pass. I would imagine McPain will come to the legislature and speak against this.


11 posted on 01/30/2011 4:15:54 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Libloather

If these lawmakers are adamant about BO/BS abiding by the natural born citizenship clause in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution then why don’t they hold him accountable for not proving he was eligible in 2008 thereby violating the Constitution?


12 posted on 01/30/2011 4:20:05 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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To: Libloather

McCain doesn’t have a US based BC because he was born in a foreign country with two US citizen parents. He’s a statutory citizen with a Certificate of Citizenship to prove his US citizenship.

Obama is a native born US citizen who became a Naturalized US Citizen after he moved to Indonesia to become an Indonesian National.

Obama’s original long form BC was sealed by Court Order because of the Soetoro adoption. After the Soetoro adoption was annulled in 1971, the Soetoro BC was sealed by Order of the Court and the COLB was created to indicate a name change to Barack Hussein Obama II with Barack Hussein Obama as the father.

The Soetoro adoption terminated the parental rights of Lolo Soetoro but did not change Obama’s school record, immunization record or his Indonesian Nationality.

Eventually, Obama naturalized as a US citizen.


13 posted on 01/30/2011 4:20:50 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the state’s health director, issued a statement saying he has “seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.”

I had no idea that the health director of the state of Hawaii can just proclaim someone a Natural Born Citizen? Ugh, they can't. I doubt this fool even knows what a Natural Born Citizen is. If Obama’s records show that Barrack Obama Sr. is his father (as Obama claims he is), then he CAN NOT BE a Natural Born Citizen.

These “original vital records”, what are they? Are they the forms a relative fills out if you were born in a pineapple patch with no witnesses? Is it the form a relative fills out to say you were born in Hawaii when you were really born in Kenya? The laws at the time would allow someone to get a type of Hawaiian birth certificate in those circumstances. Would it be worth it for a family member to lie in order for a relatives child to get U.S. citizenship?

14 posted on 01/30/2011 4:27:23 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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“I don’t know that’s on MY birth certificate, for goodness sakes” said Bennett, who was born in Tucson.”

I bet it is.


15 posted on 01/30/2011 4:28:02 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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I think, in return, he’ll charge you a few ME countries and $5 or $6 per gallon of gas. At a minimum.


16 posted on 01/30/2011 4:37:02 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Obama is a native born US citizen who became a Naturalized US Citizen after he moved to Indonesia to become an Indonesian National.

When was this? IF (That’s a big IF) Obama was born on U.S. soil, He is a native born citizen and an adoption can not take away his U.S. citizenship.

Upon reaching the age of 18, you can submit an application to become a naturalized citizen of another country, provided you qualify to become a naturalized citizen under that country’s requirements. You cannot become a naturalized citizen and renounce your U.S. citizenship until after you reach the age of majority, and your parent or guardian cannot renounce your citizenship for you.

Read more: How to Forfeit Your U.S. Citizenship | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6618536_forfeit-u_s_-citizenship.html#ixzz1CZJoFfq5


17 posted on 01/30/2011 4:38:23 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

>>“I don’t know that’s on MY birth certificate, for goodness sakes” said Bennett, who was born in Tucson.”

I bet it is.<<

Interesting. I have had an official copy of my COLB for years — it has my little feetprints, doctors’ signature, State Seal, father and mother name, place of birth and all that formal stuff you need to get a passport.

Exactly how is barry soreto jetting about the world without a valid passport, since his HI birth information is insufficient, based on the State Department’s requirements?


18 posted on 01/30/2011 4:40:05 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: Libloather
It continues to amaze me how misinformed people are about citizenship issues. I was too. The difference is that I LOOKED IT UP. They just keep spouting off nonsense that they think they know to be true, and couldn't be more wrong. It gets repeated over & over and confuses even more people. Citizenship is very complicated. “Natural Born Citizen” is NOT. Article II, Section1, Clause 5. Born in one of the fifty states by two parents who were U.S. citizens at the time. Very simple. Born in Guam? Well if it ever comes up we can look into it. Marshall Islands? We can look it up then. Panama Canal Zone? That is a NO, we don't even have to look that one up. In a U.S. embassy overseas? Sorry! On board a U.S. Navy ship? Sorry! Born on the moon by two U.S. citizen astronauts who were also U.S. military officers, Sorry!

Born in Kenya, but my grammy said I was born in HAWAII and the dog ate my original birth certificate, and my dad wasn't a U.S. citizen and my mom wasn't old enough to convey U.S. citizenship to me ....... YES YOU CAN BE PRESIDENT

19 posted on 01/30/2011 4:53:40 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: ncfool
Missouri has Hb 238 that was subbmitted on January 24, 2011. This will catch on in many more states.

I had that once. I was on antibiotics for three weeks.

20 posted on 01/30/2011 5:01:45 PM PST by Cobra64
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