Posted on 01/27/2011 1:14:16 PM PST by presidio9
The 50th anniversary of John F. Kennedys inauguration recently passed, and the event was marked by much hoopla.
There were nostalgic observations about the brilliance of JFKs Ask not what your country can do for you speech that frigid January morning back in 1960.
And there was also a fair bit of blarney, such as pundit Chris Matthews on The Colbert Report implying that JFK became president at a time when there were still No Irish Need Apply signs.
(Matthews, by the way, more than made up for this slip by writing a brilliant piece in The Washington Post about the very Irish, bipartisan friendship between Tip ONeill and Ronald Reagan.)
Things also devolved into the absurd when it was revealed that the History Channel would not be running a docu-drama based on the life of JFK and other members of that fabled clan. Apparently, certain Kennedy family members did not want the shocking news revealed that JFK might have had a roving eye!
What not many people have noticed is that all of these JFK memories came just as folks on the other side of the political aisle were celebrating the centennial of Ronald Reagans birthday.
Perhaps people have not linked these two events because JFK is arguably the most iconic Democrat of the past half a century, while Reagan is the most iconic Republican.
That being the case -- to go along with the fact that both Reagan and JFK have strong Irish roots -- it does beg the question -- who is the greatest, the most enduring, Irish American president?
JFKs Irish roots, of course, are beyond reproach. The story of the journey from the wharves of Boston to Harvard to the White House has been told many times.
Perhaps this is what Ronald Reagans son Ron Junior had in mind when he traced his own presidential dads roots in his new book My Father at 100.
Yes, we know Reagans dad was an Irish Catholic with a drinking problem, and that Dutchs great-grandfather, Michael, left Ballyporeen, Co. Tipperary, for the U.S. But Ron Junior traces the Reagan roots all the way back to 10th century Ireland. None of which is necessary. Because in the end, Ronald Reagans greatest impact on Irish America for better worse could be seen in the past several decades. In that sense, Reagan is very similar to JFK.
Fifty years ago, it may have been hard to find a No Irish Need Apply sign.
But many Irish were still working class members of tough ethnic neighborhoods, not to mention devout members of a foreign religion. (It was only in 1950 that Paul Blanshards best-selling anti-Catholic tract American Freedom and Catholic Power sold almost half a million copies.)
Thus, the election of JFK was seen as an arrival, if not to the mainstream, then at least respectability.
Ah, but how the times swiftly changed. That hard-earned respectability was often sneered at as JFKs noble 1960s veered off course and steered the U.S. into a period bordering on cultural anarchy.
A mere five years after JFKs death, Reagan, in his run for the governors seat in California, tapped into Irish American frustration. A group that had striven so hard for acceptance was now being told that it was lame and square to strive for acceptance.
As the old saying goes, you become more conservative when you actually have something to conserve. This was only more true by 1980.
And of course, it is easy to see a connection between JFKs poignant journey to his ancestral home in New Ross, Co. Wexford, in 1963, and Reagans trip to Ballyporeen some 20 years later.
But Reagan probably cemented his relationship with the Irish and other white ethnics in 1986 during the 100th anniversary celebrations for the Statue of Liberty which was seen as a new Plymouth Rock for generations of Irish Americans who had intermarried with other ethnic groups.
Whos the greatest Irish president? In just 1,000 days, JFK did set a tone and agenda remarkable for its ambition, from civil rights and the cold war to space exploration.
Reagan, though, was a game-changer. Even Democrats who have sought to carry JFKs torch -- Obama, Clinton -- have voiced admiration for The Gipper and even copied certain policies, from cutting taxes to cultural conservatism.
Again, for better or worse.
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Maybe it’s because JFK left an expanding Soviet Empire and Reagan left a collapsing one.
Reagan brought down the Soviet Union. When Kennedy had the opportunity to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs, he chickened out.
the event was marked by much hoopla
What hoopla, the guy had one good line in all of his presidency they have replayed a million times, is that the hoopla?
UHH because Ronald Reagan didn’t have his daddy connect w/ the Chicago MOB(who does THIS sound like?) to put him in the White House.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
Still though the American people will always rank JFK higher because they still believe in what EMK always called “the dream lives on.” It means different things to different person, but probably not the socialism it is.
IMO, JFK is way overrated. He was young, handsome, a democrat and got shot....and was hence glorified.
Coolidge at the other end of the spectrum...possibly the most underrated.
Because Reagan was successful in restoring America’s greatness and expanding American exceptionalism within and without our borders while Kennedy was running aroud tapping every floozy he could get his hands on and allowing government employees to unionize?
“What hoopla, the guy had one good line in all of his presidency they have replayed a million times, is that the hoopla?”
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Speaking of single lines being blown out of proportion:
He also gets WAY too much credit for the triumphs and magnificent achievements of NASA.
“What hoopla, the guy had one good line in all of his presidency they have replayed a million times, is that the hoopla?”
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Speaking of single lines being blown out of proportion:
He also gets WAY too much credit for the triumphs and magnificent achievements of NASA.
the guy had one good line in all of his presidency they have replayed a million times...
I assume you’re referring to the “Ask not what your country can do for you...” line?
This assumes that we exist to serve the State. Few have caught on to the Marxism inherent in this line.
In any case, say what you will about the guy - and I’ve said plenty of negative things about him in my time - I would vote for the likes of him in a heartbeat. He lowered taxes. He served his country in time of war. He had a sense of humor on a par with Reagan even though he lacked the training in these matters that Reagan had.
The rest of the family - that’s a whole ‘nother story...
Kind of like comparing a flea on a dog’s butt (JFK) to a prime thoroughbred horse - Jack Kennedy was an immoral, disease-ridden, drug addicted, spineless narcissist with one hand on the nuclear button and the other on some chippy’s boobs. His daddy was a gangster and nazi lover who was wholly owned by Sam Giancana and the Chicago mob.
Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of my lifetime (I’m 58) and I hope too see another before it’s time to go.
Maybe because Reagan was from humble beginiings and worked for a living. OTOH, JFK lived off the ill-gotten gains of his bootlegging, criminal, womanizing, mafia-loving, daughter-lobotomizing father. Good character in the genes vs bad character.
JFK was a flawed human being and a mediocre president. But he wasn’t nearly as bad as the one we have now.
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