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Threatened store owner fights fire with gunfire(FL)
msnbc.msn.com ^ | 17 December, 2010 | NA

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:53:49 AM PST by marktwain

LAKE MARY, Fla. — A robber threatened his victim with a bottle of gasoline and a lighter, only to find out the store's owner was packing even more firepower, authorities said Friday.

The incident happened Friday at an Internet café in Lake Mary.

According to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office, the robber pulled out a water bottle that contained gasoline, threw gas on the store owner and then pulled out a lighter to demand money.

"He obviously gave the clerk the impression he was going to be set on fire," said Lt. James Clark.

Investigators said that's when the owner, Hassan Malih, pulled out his gun and fired at the robber. The robber fled, authorities said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: assault; banglist; fire; fl; floriduh
Good response on the part of the Hassan Malih.
1 posted on 12/18/2010 7:53:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Don’t bring a gas can to a gun fight.


2 posted on 12/18/2010 7:58:17 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: marktwain
Malih wasn’t sure how many times he had fired his gun.

Well I would have fired my gun until the magazine was empty or the perp was dead or out of my sight.

3 posted on 12/18/2010 8:01:37 AM PST by Pontiac
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Yes but you still might have not know how many shots you fired.

It is fairly common for people in gun fights to not know how many shots they have fired.

4 posted on 12/18/2010 8:08:21 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: marktwain

This reminds me of the old adage that Smith and Wesson beats four aces...


5 posted on 12/18/2010 8:10:28 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: marktwain

Hassan Malih, pulled out his gun and fired at the robber. The robber fled, authorities said

Someone get that man time on an firing range!!
fired at the robber and the robber fled????


6 posted on 12/18/2010 8:27:15 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: marktwain

I would have thought the gunshot would have ignited the fumes from the gas that had been thrown on the clerk.


7 posted on 12/18/2010 8:35:39 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Probably had gasoline in his eyes.


8 posted on 12/18/2010 8:36:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jwparkerjr

Mythbusters a few episodes ago did something similar. They filled a little box with natural gas and tried to ignite it with a gunshot - didn’t work. Evidently the muzzle flash moves too fast to provide enough heat for ignition.


9 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:04 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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>>I would have thought the gunshot would have ignited the fumes from the gas that had been thrown on the clerk.<<

That idea was pretty well disproven on Mythbusters. I know some here have a problem with that show but for this one I can’t really challenge their methodology.


10 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:04 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: riverrunner
It is fairly common for people in gun fights to not know how many shots they have fired.

I am aware of that fact.

The intended point was that if you emptied the magazine you would know how many shots you had fired.

11 posted on 12/18/2010 9:01:45 AM PST by Pontiac
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Yes but you still might have not know how many shots you fired

When the slide locks back you've emptied the mag, so one should know. If the slide doesn't lock back, count the unfired rounds and subtract.

12 posted on 12/18/2010 9:09:33 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: msrngtp2002

More likely the fuel / air mixture was not within it’s explosive limits.


13 posted on 12/18/2010 9:13:14 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: jwparkerjr

***I would have thought the gunshot would have ignited the fumes from the gas that had been thrown on the clerk.***

I read something about this years ago...

During the Japanese invasion of the Phillippines a group of cut off GIs tried to start a fire for warmth one night. They soaked a blanket in gasoline and fired a shot into it. The gas would not light no matter how many times they shot into it. They had no matches.


14 posted on 12/18/2010 9:44:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: marktwain

A while back there was a case of someone trying to rob a convenience store with a palm frond. They threatened to poke the clerk.


15 posted on 12/18/2010 10:54:17 AM PST by TheOregonian (O.B.A.M.A - make up your own acronym!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“During the Japanese invasion of the Phillippines a group of cut off GIs tried to start a fire for warmth one night. They soaked a blanket in gasoline and fired a shot into it. The gas would not light no matter how many times they shot into it. They had no matches.”

The correct procedure to start a fire with a gun is this:

Take one of the cartridges from the gun and pull the bullet from the cartridge. Empty about 2/3 of the powder from the cartridge. Take a small strip of dry cloth or tissue and rub some of the emptied gunpowder into it. It must be small enough to fit back into the cartridge. Place the gunpowder rubbed cloth or tissue into the cartridge. Have your fire and tinder ready. Fire the firemaker round into the ground near the tinder ready fire. With a little luck, the cloth or tissue will be smoldering or will have burst into flames. You may have to experiment a bit to determine exact the the best amount of gunpowder to leave in the cartridge to ignite the wadding and force it out of the barrel without extinguishing it.

16 posted on 12/18/2010 7:06:16 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“exact the” should be “exactly”


17 posted on 12/18/2010 7:18:03 PM PST by marktwain
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To: TheOregonian

Thats no way to make fronds.


18 posted on 12/18/2010 8:13:41 PM PST by Redcitizen
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