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Jury Convicts Army 'Birther' Who Refused Deployment to Afghanistan
FoxNews.com ^ | 12/15/2010 | Staff

Posted on 12/15/2010 12:54:18 PM PST by OldDeckHand

A military jury has convicted an Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions President Obama's eligibility for office.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: army; certifigate; didnttakelong; fgsitsnotpalin; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; notaboutpalin; obama; palin; ucmj
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To: PA-RIVER
For a 10 dollar BC. Soebarakah should be ashamed. But I dont know if they have that concept in Kenya.

Obama is beyond shameless. So, apparently, is Lakin.

81 posted on 12/15/2010 1:57:52 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: napscoordinator
Sheesh. You sound like a liberal on this thread. Those Democrats used the same nonsense in 2005 saying that President Bush presided over an illegal war due to wrong intel. We were beating the dems up for that. There were many soldiers who refused to go to war over it and when they went to jail we celebrated.

I think there may have been a few who tried the "he's not really the president because he stole the election" argument (a precise parallel to Lakin's situation). None of us had any sympathy for such nonsense, and properly so.

82 posted on 12/15/2010 1:59:02 PM PST by tricksy
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To: Sibre Fan
What? They're currently in sentencing right NOW. The time for plea agreements is over. Isn't it?

That ended when he insisted on going to trial over the last charge.

83 posted on 12/15/2010 1:59:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I still think he has good appeals left, ineffective consul, command influence, even before you get to the BC issue.


85 posted on 12/15/2010 2:01:19 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: OldDeckHand; P-Marlowe

I’m hoping he gets to appeal or gets to simply choose retirement at his highest completed grade.

He made a legal error in judgment, but it shouldn’t ignore 20+ years of honorable service. Lakin’s intention WAS honorable and not criminal. He shouldn’t be treated like a common criminal.

I feel really sorry for the man.


86 posted on 12/15/2010 2:01:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Obama is beyond shameless. So, apparently, is Lakin.”

I knew it, there both guilty of holding back his credentials. Bastards!


87 posted on 12/15/2010 2:02:26 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: mbynack

I’d say that his entire case was based around whether he really was actually ‘ordered to go’ by anyone with the authority to order him.

JoeBob in East Canuckistan doesn’t have the authority to issue military orders... does Obama?


88 posted on 12/15/2010 2:02:32 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: OldDeckHand; himno hero; The Comedian; Quix; Whenifhow; houeto; null and void; Squantos; xrmusn; ...

In light of Puckett getting his client convicted on all charges I have amended my question, oddeck.

How was it good lawyering for Puckett to announce that his client was guilty 11 days before trial, state that Judge Lind’s rulings on discovery were correct, plead his client guilty without a plea bargain on the terms of his prison sentence, waive attorney/client privilege, have his client state that the orders that he disobeyed were lawful, and get his client convicted on all charges?


90 posted on 12/15/2010 2:02:41 PM PST by FS11
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To: bgill

>When will our Congress and Justices grow some and try him for treason?<

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Seeing Bambi and his co-conspirators in cuffs and leg-irons would make it a national holiday.


91 posted on 12/15/2010 2:04:25 PM PST by 353FMG (The peoples of the West will have to choose between ISLAM and their country.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Yes, that's damning. Coupled with the pre-deployment leave, and the "you had your chance" comment to the MOH recipient, I think Lakin is going to receive something on the heavy side. It's my personal experience that field-grade officers are harder on themselves, than they are on enlisted men, if for no other reason than "he should have known better". I think if Lakin gets something less than 12-months confinement, he's doing well, but he should gird his loins for the worst.
92 posted on 12/15/2010 2:04:40 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: tricksy
Even if we lived in a fantasy universe where the Birther arguments ......
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Gee! And to think that all this could have been resolved with a nod of the head from Obama and the release of a few **COMMON** key documents.

Obama doesn't release them because he can't.”

93 posted on 12/15/2010 2:04:46 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: Non-Sequitur
I don't think so.

I know so if this happens.

Here it is right out of a military publication:

"The first level of formal appellate review. The court may approve, disapprove, or modify the convening authority's finding and sentence. Unless waived by the accused, this court reviews, every record of trial in which death is the sentence; that evolves dismissal of a commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipmen; that sentenced a member to a dishonorable or bad conduct discharge; or in which the sentence is confinement of 1 year or more."

But since Lakin pled guilty to all but one of the charges, the additional punishment incurred from the missing movement conviction may not rise to the level of an automatic appeal.

Yes he pled "not guilty" to the missing movement. Obots should be wishing that he gets the least...as in staying in the military.

94 posted on 12/15/2010 2:06:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Georgia Girl 2
More than likely he will be forced to resign in disgrace as soon as Darryl Issa starts investigating all of the Obama crimes in January.

From your keyboard to God's ear.......but ain't gonna happen. Not a chance.

95 posted on 12/15/2010 2:07:31 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Non-Sequitur

That’s pretty low.

How many brave souls unecessarily died when their CIC delayed his decision, while endlessly golfing, to send in the surge troops .. for months?

Other than the drone attacks, how many brave souls died and *are* dying from their CIC’s insane ROE so muslims are protected?

How many courageous troops die every day due to their CIC’s
blatant appeasement of the terrorist beasts and the now
obvious perception of him around the world as an
extraordinarily (very dangerously so) weak US CIC and leader?

How many intrepid military have died from the weapons
and fighters supplied by Iran in Iraq and Afghanistan,
while their CIC plays footsie and refuses to show strength
and resolve for our safety and that of our troops in the
face of their direct involvement in killing our own?

Why is the sky blue ?


96 posted on 12/15/2010 2:07:39 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: ClayinVA
I still think he has good appeals left, ineffective consul, command influence, even before you get to the BC issue.

Well he had stupid counsel, that's for sure. One of them suggested to the doctor who was the last minute replacement for Lakin that the deployment was probably a good career opportunity for the him personally. This was after the Major told of the heavy casulaties the unit had taken two days after moving to their FOB. I'm sure that went over well with the jury.

As for your 'command influence' nonsense, that'll be a non-starter. And the BC issue was dismissed early in the legal process.

97 posted on 12/15/2010 2:08:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hindsight’s always 20/20.

(no one can predict the future)


98 posted on 12/15/2010 2:08:41 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: STARWISE
That’s pretty low.

So were Lakin's actions.

99 posted on 12/15/2010 2:09:15 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Frantzie

I have no sympathy for Lakin.

You dont screw around with an Indonesian citizen named Soebarkah and expect not to get burned. It’s just damn foolishness.


100 posted on 12/15/2010 2:10:11 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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