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Jury Convicts Army 'Birther' Who Refused Deployment to Afghanistan
FoxNews.com ^ | 12/15/2010 | Staff

Posted on 12/15/2010 12:54:18 PM PST by OldDeckHand

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To: tricksy

Who’s us?


101 posted on 12/15/2010 2:11:14 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Red Steel
Here it is right out of a military publication...

But if that dismissal is due to the officer pleading guilty to the charges against him then what is there to appeal? So if the penalty imposed for missing movement alone is less than dismissal or confinement for more than one year I don't see the appeal being automatic.

102 posted on 12/15/2010 2:14:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ClayinVA

I still think he has good appeals left, ineffective consul...

Well he had stupid counsel, that’s for sure.

97 posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:08:12 PM by Non-Sequitur

Ditto.


103 posted on 12/15/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by FS11
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To: Non-Sequitur

So you agree the CIC’s actions have been low?


104 posted on 12/15/2010 2:15:26 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

You can’t judge a Muslim from Indonesia with the same standards as a Christian American.

What might be low and foul conduct for an American might be normal for Obama/Soebarkah. Who are we to judge?


105 posted on 12/15/2010 2:15:47 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: OldDeckHand

I don’t see how the Army can impose anything less than the maximum under the circumstances. He may not serve the whole time but he’ll get sentenced to it and he’ll do part of it.


106 posted on 12/15/2010 2:16:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: combat_boots

2. The FCC shuts down the Internet opposition sites on Dec 21, as is being suggested, thus eliminating any news except by word of mouth?

Could you provide a link on this, please? Thx.


107 posted on 12/15/2010 2:16:24 PM PST by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: OldDeckHand

It’s easier for 0bama to destroy people and careers rather than spend about $10 for an original long form Birth Certificate.

Which, of course, raises the question again:

“WHAT IS 0BAMA HIDING?”


108 posted on 12/15/2010 2:18:17 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: tricksy
Not a chance. Nobody, of any political strips, is going to undermine civilian supremacy over the military.

So it's not a chance that if Obama is found not to be elible for office; his whole presidency was based on a lie, that no president would pardon Lakin in light of these facts? Oh, But Billy boy Clinton can pardon terrorists and the criminal Mark Rich? Get lost troll.

109 posted on 12/15/2010 2:19:07 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Georgia Girl 2

>Getting Obama out on eligibility is going to have to be done either through the SCOTUS or the Congress.<

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If none of the new Congressmen will pursue the question of Obama’s eligibility, I will know that little has changed this last election.


110 posted on 12/15/2010 2:21:11 PM PST by 353FMG (The peoples of the West will have to choose between ISLAM and their country.)
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To: STARWISE
I think he went to get the champagne, He'll be right back.
111 posted on 12/15/2010 2:21:22 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: freekitty
"This is sad. One more courageous act he performed for our country and gets slaughtered for it."

Yes , I agree this IS sad.

I don't understand why Lakin went eyeball to eyeball with the enemy (Obuttma) and then blinked, by pleading guilty. I'm not a lawyer but this was handled completely wrong by Lakin's legal staff.

Lakin should have argued that, Obuttma has openly claimed that Obuttma sr was his biological father and never was a US citizen, therefore Obuttma is at best a dual citizen. Because he is a dual citizen Obuttma can never legally hold the office of POTUS.

Those of you FRers who want to argue that Lakin disobeyed a direct order from Lakin's commanding officer, Hear this. Lakin's commanding officer has NO authority over Lakin unless it comes from that commander's superior officer and that chain of command continues going up until it rest with ONE man, POTUS.

Lakin would still have been convicted because the present system has been so corrupted by these commie bastards, no one can get a honest hearing. However, the legality of Obuttma's dual citizenship would forever be documented per this trial.

113 posted on 12/15/2010 2:23:10 PM PST by FW190
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To: Uncle Miltie

He’s not hiding anything. His wife has publicly stated he’s a Kenyan. So He’s a Kenyan. Cut Obama some slack.

Cant we all just get along?


114 posted on 12/15/2010 2:23:40 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Non-Sequitur

We’ll see what happens. The sentence is going to be for the whole trial. You won’t be able to split it like you want it to be unless, the convening authority drops the missing movement.


115 posted on 12/15/2010 2:23:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: marstegreg

There are many names for this type of thing, but by defying his orders to report for deployment to Afghanistan he is guilty of insubordination, for one.


116 posted on 12/15/2010 2:24:50 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: mbynack
Basically boils down to, “was he ordered to go”, and “did he go”. That’s all the UCMJ requires the prosecution to prove. Any mitigating circumstances aren’t considered until sentencing.

So what you're saying is that all military personnel who disobey unlawful orders will be found guilty of disobeying orders and go to prison...and whether or not the order was unlawful only affects how long the stay there.
117 posted on 12/15/2010 2:25:30 PM PST by Yet_Again
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To: Frantzie

I think he was being sarcastic without the sarcasm tag.


118 posted on 12/15/2010 2:25:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: FW190

And yet another sea lawyer chimes in. Where’d you get your law degree?


119 posted on 12/15/2010 2:25:54 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Frantzie

Read my post again, its sarcasm. Read my tagline.


120 posted on 12/15/2010 2:26:04 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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