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DADT "survey" results - anybody surprised?
vanity | 30 Nov 10 | Jagusafr

Posted on 11/30/2010 4:55:04 PM PST by jagusafr

Is anybody who filled out the DoD DADT survey surprised at the announcement of its results? The questions made the outcome a foregone conclusion. My question is this: isn't the very fact that those who were most against repeal are the ones who do what militaries are made for - fight - a perfect reason to keep the ban in effect?

Colonel, USAFR


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; dadt; delphi; delphitechnique; dod; homosexualagenda; military; survey; vanity
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1 posted on 11/30/2010 4:55:06 PM PST by jagusafr
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To: jagusafr

yep!


2 posted on 11/30/2010 4:56:25 PM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: jagusafr

Welcome to the official news headlines of the USSA Most voters want to be groped and/or naked scanned and most soldiers want gays looking at them in the shower.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 4:56:38 PM PST by omega4179 (Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius)
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The DRAFT will HAVE to come back.....GIRLS TOO!! Hope all the lefties are happy about their girls going to war!!


4 posted on 11/30/2010 4:58:27 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I’m not believing this “survey” for a minute. This is Gates doing his thing for his homosexual brothers and sisters. Gates said homo will do no harm to the military. LOL! Somebody needs to give him a newspaper and tell him to look for the name PFC Bradley Manning. Personally, I don’t think the Pentagon’s budget is going to be able to withstand the homosexuals’ lawsuit assault but, oh well. The voters wanted “hope and change”. They’re about to get what they wished for and it’s going to be too late to stop it.


5 posted on 11/30/2010 5:00:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sittin' in da back of da bus since January 2009.)
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Have the survey questions been posted anywhere? Has a question by question analysis of the responses been posted? I have been told that the questions were set to determine how best to make the desired transition not whether or not it should be made. Also that the results are being interpreted to say things that none of the questions actually asked.
6 posted on 11/30/2010 5:01:43 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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I agree 100%. Gays in the Military? IF Congress is STUPID enough to push this through And the Pentagon with their panties in a bunch to force the issue—then All I can say is attempted sodomy- just cause to snuff a faggot.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 5:03:17 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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I had to turn off FOX news a little bit ago..

Shep Smith was pretty darn close to needing a Kleenex or a moist towelette to clean himself when he was reporting on this poll.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 5:03:51 PM PST by digger48
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Personally, I don’t think the Pentagon’s budget is going to be able to withstand the homosexuals’ lawsuit assault

THAT is what this is, and always has been all about!

Crippling the military by any and all means!

9 posted on 11/30/2010 5:05:46 PM PST by digger48
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I did not vote for ANY communist/ Democrat in the last election but here in Colorado the queer money of >Gill -
and the union thugs I believe stole a couple of seats.
I believe Buck would have won and Bennett would have been
gone as well had it been an honest election. But in2012—If there still is any pretense at election Once again I will NOT VOTE for any Communist /Democrat. AND I may be a bit more vocal that these elitist godless globalists want America to be third world trash heap of ignorant vandals Maybe a few more mosques will burn? a lot can happen when the government is not of by and for the people.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 5:09:52 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: jagusafr

Watch Freepers attack our soldiers just like liberals do because of this survey.


11 posted on 11/30/2010 5:11:12 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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The conclusion was already reached. This was just a case of manufacturing the evidence to support the political leftist goal of imposed diversity and weakening the military. Any evidence that front line troops oppose the conclusion is irrelevant and will only target them for special attention and reeducation. If a few more of them get killed, that provides new opportunities for the Obama commissars.
12 posted on 11/30/2010 5:11:33 PM PST by Truth29
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As I pointed out in a different post. I’m disturbed at the way they are spinning the stats of this report. ONLY 15-20% actually said repealing DADT was a “positive” thing, so in reality only 15-20% were for it. A solid 30% see a repeal a negative, so in reality that 30% are against it. The big “mushy middle” of 50-55% were ambivalent. So, when they say 70% are “for” the repeal of DADT it is a mistatement of truth.

Also, as a reservist that took the survey with my wife, it was a very poorly worded document that didn’t allow the person taking the survey to clearly articulate objections. This is one of the worst pieces of “whitewash” done in military history. The general officers that cooperated in this shame should resign from service for being cowards and not giving the POTUS straight talk instead of placating him.

I know that Senator McCain is no favorite here on FR, I don’t like him much myself. However, on this issue he is telling the rest of congress what I’m saying about this bogus survey. He obviously has been listening to members of the military. Give him credit and backing for that...he gained so new respect from this soldier.

This survey is bogus and should not be taken seriously by members of the Senate that our Republicans....and if their are any sensible Democrats they need to realize this as well.

Bottom line is that the lame duck session of congress should not take on this issue. The language needs to be stricten from the Appropriations Bill. The new congress is the appropriate group to discuss this and act on it.


13 posted on 11/30/2010 5:13:26 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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“Shep Smith was pretty darn close to needing a Kleenex or a moist towelette to clean himself when he was reporting on this poll.”

Did his mascara run?


14 posted on 11/30/2010 5:13:31 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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I have also been told that the survey forms were coded so that the respondents could be identified... that is... it was not an anonymous survey so anyone who filled it out can potentially be called to task later on their answers. The old “lost confidence in your judgment” number. Don't believe it? Ask anyone who attended “Tailhook”.
15 posted on 11/30/2010 5:18:44 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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That is precisely how it was worded: how to make the transition, not whether it’s a good idea. An illegitimate tool for an illegitimate purpose.

Colonel, USAFR


16 posted on 11/30/2010 5:20:41 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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“Also, as a reservist that took the survey with my wife, it was a very poorly worded document that didn’t allow the person taking the survey to clearly articulate objections.”

Ditto, and ditto. We were both appalled at the way the questions were worded.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 11/30/2010 5:21:52 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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Big Brother wants you to be gay!
18 posted on 11/30/2010 5:21:59 PM PST by iowamark
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To: FlingWingFlyer

After talking with a couple of troops who took the survey they stated it lead the troops to the conclusion it wanted.

As the troops were asked questions on gays - under the now in force DADT - any answers they gave after gays are allowed to serve in the open are nul and void.


19 posted on 11/30/2010 5:23:00 PM PST by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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“I have also been told that the survey forms were coded so that the respondents could be identified... that is... it was not an anonymous survey so anyone who filled it out can potentially be called to task later on their answers.”

Yes, they were. Although we were told they wouldn’t do so. However, if they will spin the results to make them sound more favorable to repeal of DADT than they actual were, then I guess they could do anything.


20 posted on 11/30/2010 5:24:29 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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