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Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"
Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.


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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“Reproduce the video. Should be easy to do. No one has.”

True

But hasn’t the LA Times reported that the video has been confiscated, and that is why we cannot see it and no one can find it?

Is this correct?

Because the whole thing is certainly unavailable to see ........


521 posted on 11/14/2010 3:27:33 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: justa-hairyape
Oops. Looks like they might be using visible light for the laser. In one of the shots the light appears to be about the color of light at sunset. Hmmm....

Airborne Laser: Historic First Ballistic Missile Intercept

522 posted on 11/14/2010 3:35:24 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Sto Zvirat
No, you don’t get it, launches look the same to people viewing to the N and the S.

This launch was arcing west. The retired general on Hannity even stated it was arcing at 45 degrees. And no one was south of this except the fishes. Look at a map.

I don’t see a single ounce of proof that it was a missile, nothing.

Well then, take it up with the retired general on Hannity.

523 posted on 11/14/2010 3:43:07 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

He’s not here, but you are saying he’s correct. So it’s up to you.

I wish you guys would at least get the story straight. I’ve seen just about every possible nation including our blamed for this. Some say it was a test, some a scare, some blah blah blah.

It’s all complete conjecture and ridiculous. All this over a plane, amazing.


524 posted on 11/14/2010 3:45:50 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: justa-hairyape
ROFLOL!

Bla bla bla, refute my point; otherwise you're just typing on a keyboard. I see you choose to deflect rather than counter the argument.

That being said, and notwithstanding, all your bla bla bla, and all that, nonetheless, seems to be all you are capable of; you seem to be either unwilling, or outright incompetent to rebut a suitable defense regarding the inconsistancy between the two CBS framegrabs at issue. Perhaps you're either just cluelesss how to make a coherent counterargument (or have too much emotional currency invested to see the weakness of your propositions).

In any event, let the record show: the question has been asked and the debater is non-responsive (except for ad-hominem). As far as the general's opinion, there's virtually as many of those as there are mouths (everybody's got one). Except for one thing: shooting 'em off don't substitute for thinking. And that goes for you too.

Either way: I really couldn't care less what you think. And quite frankly, I'm not even the least curious what you're going to do about what you believe. IF there's something you actually believe that you can do about your opinion.

525 posted on 11/14/2010 3:47:07 AM PST by raygun
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To: Tolsti2
It’s all complete conjecture and ridiculous. All this over a plane, amazing.

Fine. You are admitting you cannot disprove what the Retired General has asserted. BTW - His appearance was recorded.

526 posted on 11/14/2010 4:25:24 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: raygun
I see you choose to deflect rather than counter the argument.

This is not a philosophical thread. This thread is about the testimony of a Retired General who asserts this was a missile. Has nothing to do with philosophy. It has to do with disproving the generals assertions which you cannot do, so we get your non-related posting on philosophy.

..incompetent to rebut a suitable defense regarding the inconsistancy between the two CBS framegrabs at issue. Perhaps you're either just cluelesss how to make a coherent counterargument (or have too much emotional currency invested to see the weakness of your propositions).

When are you gonna put together a coherent post about the topic ? So you really do not know how to post an image in your post ? You want me to go through all that crap just because you lack basic HTML skills ?

527 posted on 11/14/2010 4:34:49 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

you mean you actually think our government or one of its agencies would mislead or lie to us????

/s


528 posted on 11/14/2010 4:44:39 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: raygun
In post #366 I’ve asked how to reconcile the same event shown in images at post #58 when contrasted with post #303. Is that too much to ask? If #58 can be dismissed with an off-handed wave, then why not #303?

Since you seem to lack the ability to place images into a post, thought I would do the post for you. Then I would try to figure out the point you want to make. Do you see images in post #303 ? Because I do not see any here. Perhaps they are no longer available ?

529 posted on 11/14/2010 5:46:35 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Jack Hydrazine
One does suppose that as big as this missile would have to have been (2 degrees on the horizon) that any people on boats near enough to see it take off would have been turned into crispy critters and their boats sunk.

By now the Coast Guard would be swamped with missing persons reports! Others would be on the scene in their own boats frantically searching for any sign of their missing relatives.

Oh, the humanity!

530 posted on 11/14/2010 5:47:35 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Mr. Silverback

No one has produced a similar looking contrail image. The lighting on everyone is wrong. And they wont be able to get the contrail lighting right until the next missile test launch.


531 posted on 11/14/2010 5:51:58 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: eyedigress
Are you familiar with telemetry....Missiles are launched and make a telemetry correction upon lock then boost again.

I am. But what confused be was the statement that it 'locked on' to something. Locked on to what?

532 posted on 11/14/2010 6:09:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hardraade
"You have been shown the abyss, and you don't like looking at it. It rams home exactly how you gents have been raped by the O, the dems, and the islamists - and how you can do nothing about it. Because if you accepted the evidence, you would have to move. And you do not dare even think the thought.

You are gone."


WOW......is right. Perfect. We've had a Communist coup and these quivering bed-wetters are still in denial.

Your brilliant post reminds me of the airplane disaster in Sioux City. Remember United Airlines Flight 232 from Denver to Chicago that crashed landed in Sioux City, Iowa?

Well, after the plane rolls, bursts into flames, splits in half and kills a third of the passengers......There were many eyewitness accounts of survivers stepping over screaming, injured people to get their luggage out of the overhead compartments.

Is it any wonder we have a Marxist, Muslim, America-hating, illegal alien in the White House less than 7 years after 9/11?
533 posted on 11/14/2010 6:11:10 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The flight was arcing westward.

Then it's far simpler. Views from the north that show it going eastward with time.

There were flight restrictions near to that area and near to that time.

Doesn't matter whether there were restrictions posted or not, there were commercial aircraft flying through the area on schedule, and they were picked up and plotted on the radar records.

Adjust your theory to fit facts, not the other way around.

534 posted on 11/14/2010 6:11:26 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Then it's far simpler. Views from the north that show it going eastward with time.

The lighting proves it was going westward. The Retired General on Hannity stated is was arcing at 45 degrees away from the video camera. IE - Westward. There is even a second video showing it going westward. That is why it appeared to be moving slow.

Doesn't matter whether there were restrictions posted or not, there were commercial aircraft flying through the area on schedule, and they were picked up and plotted on the radar records.

What area ? We do not know where it was launched from. Might have been launched way out at San Nicolas Island and quickly arced 45 degrees elevation out to the west.

535 posted on 11/14/2010 6:23:09 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Your collective expertise/history/assembled experts:

☐ private pilot
☐ flown ["those"] skies since mid-80s
☐ backyard astronomy
☐ "avid" aerospace nut "since birth"
☐ remembers moon landings

My collective expertise/history/assembled experts:

☐ husband pilot/naval aviator, commercial pilot Super 80, 727, 737, 757, 767
☐ husband has flown, sortied, V/STOL'd & carrier-landed ["those"] skies since early-90s
☐ backyard astronomy
☐ friends/colleagues @ Raytheon, NASA, Boeing, Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, Pratt Whitney, several others who design, launch, have flown aboard things that make you go "Holy cr@*" from your backyard
☐ remembers moon landings - "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express."

536 posted on 11/14/2010 6:26:42 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: justa-hairyape

There are other pictures of the same damn thing proving it was heading east.

No amount of evidence is going to help you is it?


537 posted on 11/14/2010 6:50:09 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Innovative; buccaneer81

Thanks for clearing that up - I’ll be back in a sec - gotta wash the egg off my face.

:)


538 posted on 11/14/2010 6:50:11 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Tolsti2
Post an image and I will point out how you can tell. Please no low res web cam images. Has to be an image that can be definitively proved to be the same event on video. Most images I have seen are not the same event. Posters just think it is or assume it is. Lighting is the key. How in the world can you counter what that Retired General stated on Hannity ? He has more experience on the topic then 99 % of us. Bloggers with access to low res web cams and who put together a blog page are a dime a dozen.
539 posted on 11/14/2010 7:10:18 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Given that Mythbusters was at the Jon Stewart rally, I don’t trust their “expertise” any more.


540 posted on 11/14/2010 7:27:47 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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