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California Contrail Explained - Not Missile - False Alarm
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Posted on 11/10/2010 8:24:09 AM PST by MindBender26

California Contrail Explained - Not Missile

After having about 10 experienced pilots and another 20 of us who are accustomed to watching missile launches from Cape Canaveral review tape, we have most probable answer for the mysterious California contrail. Tape was also reviewed by senior official at NGA.

It is not a missile. It is the contrail of a airliner at altitude moving toward the camera, at an angle of about 30 degrees off center to the right. Retired TRANSPAC airline pilots and USAF types said it was a rather common sight to see as they are climbing out over water on a westerly heading at sunset.

A few clues:

1. This is not as new event. The photographer who took video said in interview that it was very much like others he had seen week earlier.

2. Expanding contrail plume gives illusion that bottom/rear of plume is closer to observer than the top/newest part of plume, that which is near the aircraft. It is an illusion.

3. The light emanating from the object that looks like rocket flame is a reflection of the sun off the aluminum bottom of the a/c fuselage. The clues that it is not a rocket flame are that it is not hidden by contrail, and more importantly, is the same color temperature as the sun's other reflections.

4. There were no alarms from the DSP satellites. They detect heat from rocket launches from geostationary orbit. They are very good, so good in fact that when Sovs had a fire in an ICBM silo a few years ago, it was reported at NORAD immediately.

5. No radar, and there are numerous ATC and air defense radars in that area, had any track, primary or transponder, of any object on a course as speculated.

All in all, a false alarm. A very interesting one, but a false alarm.

Not the first false alarm, either. In the 60s, we went to DEFCON 2 based on DEW and PineTree line radar returns indicating Sov bombers inbound over Greenland. Was really delayed radar echoes off the rising moon.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: californiamissile; chat; contrail; hearsay; missilemystery; mysterymissile; propaganda; scuttlebutt; swampgas; tinfoilbrigade; vanity
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To: MindBender26

I’m not an expert on missiles or contrails. If you want me to believe this was a jetliner’s contrail, though, I’d check out those engines. That was one heck of lot of water vapor or exhaust. The contrail explanation sounds kinda odd.


61 posted on 11/10/2010 8:48:15 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: MindBender26

Dang! And I was sure it was Nancy Pelosi’s face exploding after one too many Botox treatments!

Other threads here on Free Republic have offered specific airline flights.

See: http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/

Flight AWE808 from Hawaii to Phoenix

See also: http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808


62 posted on 11/10/2010 8:48:41 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

You are quoting someone called “Unicus” from an ANONYMOUS blog as your source? Who the hell is “Unicus”?


63 posted on 11/10/2010 8:49:22 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: edwinland

Porn...........


64 posted on 11/10/2010 8:50:39 AM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I’ve been an avid sky watcher all my life too. I live under the east west flightpath about 70 miles from Detroit. Sometimes there is no contrail, other times they’ll leave a contrail from one horizon to the other and everything in between.


65 posted on 11/10/2010 8:50:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mlo

Why are you quoting an ANONYMOUS Blog as your source?


66 posted on 11/10/2010 8:50:44 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: MindBender26

Errant weather balloon.

A big one.


67 posted on 11/10/2010 8:51:22 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: calex59
The point of origin is supposedly off the coast, do we have sea plane airliners?

That is my question. Can someone in the know explain why the video appears to show the plane emerging from the direction of sea and not from the direction of the airport?

68 posted on 11/10/2010 8:52:14 AM PST by jersey117
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To: ScottinVA

First, an unexplained missile laumch, and then a mammoth cruise ship has an engine fire/failue, all in the same general area..


69 posted on 11/10/2010 8:52:17 AM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: mlo

One of the first things I heard was this “thing” was traveling in a westerly direction. Was the flight from Hawaii traveling west as it approached Los Angeles?


70 posted on 11/10/2010 8:52:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: MindBender26

Bah! It’s was an underwater space alien ship blasting back towards space to go home, and I defy anyone who can prove it was not!


71 posted on 11/10/2010 8:52:36 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I glory in the afterglow of watching a defeated Blanche Lincoln cry during her concession speech.)
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To: mbarker12474

This is the 2nd source you are quoting? Surely you’re joking.

http://bahneman.com/


72 posted on 11/10/2010 8:53:23 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: ErnBatavia

Thank you.


73 posted on 11/10/2010 8:54:11 AM PST by sissyjane (Did you plug the hole yet Daddy????)
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To: MindBender26

Your explanations make too much sense. They don’t feed the hysteria people want to feel so it justifies their existing feelings.

Not saying you have the answers, but your post makes the most sense of those I’ve read.

An MIT professor just said he saw the “rocket” drop its first stage. Not sure how that fits with your theory, but I am going to guess that some FReepers loathing of MIT will suddenly disappear when they hear that.


74 posted on 11/10/2010 8:54:11 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Flight tracker has the flight number US Airways flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix

It is readily admitted that the vehicle was traveling WEST, a flight coming in from HI would be moving east. This explanation is BS. I've watched missile launches sine I was a young man in the 60s and this was a missile launch.

75 posted on 11/10/2010 8:54:36 AM PST by calex59
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To: txrangerette

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2624688/posts


76 posted on 11/10/2010 8:55:50 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Oberon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2624688/posts


77 posted on 11/10/2010 8:56:27 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Names Ash Housewares
It’s an airliner.

The apparent 95% of people that refuse to believe that it may simply be an interesting optical illusion makes me wonder if we really DO need the elites to do our thinking for us.

78 posted on 11/10/2010 8:56:27 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

Swamp gas.. is what comes out of a Swamp a$$ which you get after a 23 hour motorcycle ride.

I guess from a distance that could look like a contrail.

No bearing on the story just thinking out loud.


79 posted on 11/10/2010 8:58:56 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: MindBender26
The fact is that someone not friendly to us has access to a missile. We do not want another economic meltdown so the missile trail is, whew, swamp gas, Tinkerbell, or a jetliner flying at you slightly off center. Yeah I vote for the last one because it makes so much sense and we see it happening all the time.

What bull shit

80 posted on 11/10/2010 8:59:00 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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