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Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics
Chicago Tribune ^ | Nov 7, 2010 | Neela Banerjee

Posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:13 PM PST by SmartInsight

The American Geophysical Union plans to announce Monday that 700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue. The effort is a pushback against congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.

"This group feels strongly that science and politics can't be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists," said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: algore; campaign; climate; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gore; mann; scientism; scientists; skeptics
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To: Graybeard58
Now I'm a denialist, don't think I've seen that one before.

What's the opposite of "denialist"? Dogmatist!

(h/t: Kate McMillan, for her crack about the opposite of "diversity" being university.)

41 posted on 11/07/2010 2:52:29 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: SmartInsight

Junior College Scientist? I am impressed...


42 posted on 11/07/2010 2:59:04 PM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishment Republicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: Traveler59

It does speak the truth!


43 posted on 11/07/2010 3:00:53 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: silverleaf
“Suffolk County Community College” “Suffolk County Community College”

Science “R” Us

Hey man, don't mock them!

They are dragging out their "Big Guns"!

/sarc

44 posted on 11/07/2010 3:05:32 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: SmartInsight

The AGU (American Geophysical Union) is another government union like the SEIU that should be dissolved. Everyone of these guys has their hands in our pockets.

I can’t do this because of a multitude of projects I’m working on. But I suggest as a single or continuing reporting project some FR, or even a group of Free Republicans, go through their (AGU) membership list and post their picture citing with what type of grant ammount they received, for what type of project, through what institution. As well as what conclusion of that project was arrived at (if published),and how it was reached . And post it here in Free Republic. Billions have been wasted on this pesudo scientific premise.


45 posted on 11/07/2010 3:08:00 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: SmartInsight

700 pinheads who are afraid that their 2 years of “global warming” studies at a junior college will be wasted if they aren’t able to create government jobs for themselves.


46 posted on 11/07/2010 3:08:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: SmartInsight

Just out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see the percentage of these 700 “scientists” who are getting full funding from the govt and who would have no jobs if they come up with research showing that the vast majority of their stats cannot be supported.


47 posted on 11/07/2010 3:11:32 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: FrankR
After being trained in sales and being in sales for a long, long time, I am amazed that this buncho of evioro-loonies chose the wording, "plan against skeptics".

Whether your selling cars, shoes, or ideas, you can't convince someone to buy your product by using something AGAINST them.

Sorry to be so cyncial, but why should they worry? They're not trying to sell; they're trying to lobby. There's a big difference between the two. In order to make a sale, you have to convince someone to part with money - typically, their own or funds over which they're responsible - for whatever it is you're selling. Lobbyists don't have to do that. They have to convince politicians, and/or bureaucrats, to do something for (or to) someone else.

As long as politics is adversarial, which it is, that bad sales strategy will not be bad for lobbying. As you know, a sale isn't made by saying "buy this and you'll really get back at those so-and-sos that have been cutting into you." On the other hand, laws and/or regulations are often passed using that technique. Once it gets to the politicians and/or bureaucrats, it morphs into "You will save those poor people from the depradations of those so-and-so's. You can smite the wicked!"

From this angle, selling is actually cleaner.

One more point: the AGW lobbyists-with-degrees don't even need to hustle the politicians and/or bureaucrats. They just need to hustle the public-school teachers. That's what "the long march through the institutions" is all about. All ya need is a plausible-sounding high ground, and it's a'rollin'. The absurdities of yesterday become the "impractical idealism" of today and the base for coercive measures tomorrow.

After all, who would sit down with his kid and say something that has a real chance of inducing the kid to blow off his studies? What youngster would be reckless enough to have an "F in indoctrination" dogging his transcript? [Feel free to substitute "her" is appropriate.]

48 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:08 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: SmartInsight

Get real jobs you bums!!!


49 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: danielmryan
Selling is about filling the customers' needs and convincing him that you can do it for him to get a return on his investment.

The ONLY point I was trying to make is they were trying to "sell" a point by using threats and intimidation. That usually makes the "customer" hunker down and resist with all his might.

I just thought it was bass-ackwards and didn't mean to get into a dissertation on selling. Sorry you missed that point, but I'll bow out now and let you continue on your own.
50 posted on 11/07/2010 3:18:15 PM PST by FrankR (DEAR GOP: REPEAL IT, or you'll FEEL IT, in 2012!)
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To: SmartInsight
""This group feels strongly that science and politics can't be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists," said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York."

Wow, they went straight to the apex of the heavyweights of academia! Suffolk CCC!

51 posted on 11/07/2010 3:26:31 PM PST by cookcounty (December 31st is coming.....STOP Obama's Midnight Tax Jack-Up!!)
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To: SmartInsight

The “Scientists” have no current Science capable of predicting the future Climate even as far as the sign of the change.


52 posted on 11/07/2010 3:27:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GloriaJane
It’s their get rich on the backs of the people scam. They’re not going to give it up easily.

Oh, goody! Something else to de-fund.
53 posted on 11/07/2010 3:38:45 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: SmartInsight

If it was really wrong, it would only take one.


54 posted on 11/07/2010 3:47:01 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: SmartInsight
Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics

...700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue.

Times are tough for the global warmers, Gore had 2500 "scientists" now they are down to 700.

55 posted on 11/07/2010 3:49:09 PM PST by RJL
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To: SmartInsight

If it were out in the open it would be a good opportunity to refute carbon dioxide lie once and for all, including attempts by EPA regulation. However, there will be no public debate instead: “Some are also pulling together a handbook on the human causes of climate change, which they plan to start sending to U.S. high schools as early as this fall.”

I don’t know how that could be challenged except by parents.


56 posted on 11/07/2010 3:52:40 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: WVNan

To them,,, their arguments are hugh and series,, and our arguments are mute and irrevalunt!


57 posted on 11/07/2010 4:15:00 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SmartInsight

>> “to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists,” said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.

Get a real job Mandia, you petulant hack.


58 posted on 11/07/2010 4:20:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SmartInsight
John Abraham of St. Thomas University in Minnesota, who last May wrote a widely disseminated response to climate-change skeptics, is pulling together a "Climate Rapid Response Team," which so far has more than three dozen leading scientists to defend the consensus on global warming in the scientific community.

When you see the word "consensus" and "science" in the same sentence you can be sure real science is AWOL. Facts don't require consensus. Facts are what they are. The speed of light is not determined by consensus. It is what it is. Real science deals with facts.

59 posted on 11/07/2010 4:24:55 PM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: SmartInsight

well lets draw sabors then!!!!


60 posted on 11/07/2010 4:32:43 PM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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