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To: FrankR
After being trained in sales and being in sales for a long, long time, I am amazed that this buncho of evioro-loonies chose the wording, "plan against skeptics".

Whether your selling cars, shoes, or ideas, you can't convince someone to buy your product by using something AGAINST them.

Sorry to be so cyncial, but why should they worry? They're not trying to sell; they're trying to lobby. There's a big difference between the two. In order to make a sale, you have to convince someone to part with money - typically, their own or funds over which they're responsible - for whatever it is you're selling. Lobbyists don't have to do that. They have to convince politicians, and/or bureaucrats, to do something for (or to) someone else.

As long as politics is adversarial, which it is, that bad sales strategy will not be bad for lobbying. As you know, a sale isn't made by saying "buy this and you'll really get back at those so-and-sos that have been cutting into you." On the other hand, laws and/or regulations are often passed using that technique. Once it gets to the politicians and/or bureaucrats, it morphs into "You will save those poor people from the depradations of those so-and-so's. You can smite the wicked!"

From this angle, selling is actually cleaner.

One more point: the AGW lobbyists-with-degrees don't even need to hustle the politicians and/or bureaucrats. They just need to hustle the public-school teachers. That's what "the long march through the institutions" is all about. All ya need is a plausible-sounding high ground, and it's a'rollin'. The absurdities of yesterday become the "impractical idealism" of today and the base for coercive measures tomorrow.

After all, who would sit down with his kid and say something that has a real chance of inducing the kid to blow off his studies? What youngster would be reckless enough to have an "F in indoctrination" dogging his transcript? [Feel free to substitute "her" is appropriate.]

48 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:08 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: danielmryan
Selling is about filling the customers' needs and convincing him that you can do it for him to get a return on his investment.

The ONLY point I was trying to make is they were trying to "sell" a point by using threats and intimidation. That usually makes the "customer" hunker down and resist with all his might.

I just thought it was bass-ackwards and didn't mean to get into a dissertation on selling. Sorry you missed that point, but I'll bow out now and let you continue on your own.
50 posted on 11/07/2010 3:18:15 PM PST by FrankR (DEAR GOP: REPEAL IT, or you'll FEEL IT, in 2012!)
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