Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.
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Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.
My genius kid should be home later this week. We’ll see if he can do something to help then.
I know it’s frustrating, butter, but just hang on a little longer.
Article 5 Amendments.....no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
The 14th Amendment is a fraud.
Please point out where the Constitution gives the President any role in the amendment process.
That is my point. Anything goes with regard to what happens to us. They have no boundaries. They have no time limits. Tyranny advances on the back of what the pols want. Wording or procedure does not hold them back. Any and all rationalizations can be used to justify whatever the court does. We simply say “well, they seated Ohio” or “they applied to be a state” in does not matter that their application was never accepted. It does not matter the amendments did not pass they were accepted. It seems like a lot of people on FR simply like it this way.
I missed your note about what Madison put in the Constitution to protect the sufferage in the Senate does not matter. I guess that says it all about your view of the Constitution. This was the only subject requiring unanimous consent and it does not matter.
There are a lot of folks that believe all sorts of things. I just know when Ohio was admitted and yes it is a little known footnote in history. The reason for the delay are quite understandable if you read up on the border dispute. If you prefer “seating” to admission that is up to you. A similar situation exists with West Virginia, their only claim to statehood is that they left VA. I would like a nation that functions according to logic. You petition for statehood, you don’t get to be a state until your petition is accepted. I know, that is far too simply for you.
There are a lot of folks that believe all sorts of things. I just know when Ohio was admitted and yes it is a little known footnote in history. The reason for the delay are quite understandable if you read up on the border dispute. If you prefer “seating” to admission that is up to you. A similar situation exists with West Virginia, their only claim to statehood is that they left VA. I would like a nation that functions according to logic. You petition for statehood, you don’t get to be a state until your petition is accepted. I know, that is far too simple for you.
You might want to read up on the 17th. There were a lot of good reasons for passing it at the time, and by the time of its passage, most states had, on their own, gone to a form of direct election.
Of course, if you're going to persist in this line of argument, you'll also have to argue that the Bill of Rights is also fraudulent, since they weren't signed by George Washington.
So all the amendments prior to the 18th that didn’t include time limits should be invalidated?
So all the amendments prior to the 18th that didn’t include time limits should be invalidated?
I have explained what a state is before. A state is not the people of the state. A state is an entity. Those entities were deprived of their sufferage without their consent. That is why Madison went to such lengths to protect their sufferage. They were essential to what he called the republic. The states have no sufferage in the Senate.
The 17th Amendment denies States themselves representation as it makes Senators directly elected by the people-of-the States rather than the people-acting-as-the-state [state legislators].
It is always interesting to meet someone more wise and knowing than every lawyer and Constitutional scholar in the history of our country...but usually, they call themselves “Jesus” and are found in special homes.
And since every election since Ohio joined the Union has been held under false pretenses, I guess that means every law and Amendment made since 1803 is invalid.
And I thought the foreclosure mess was bad!
Birtherism on steroids...
So, do you deny youre a huffer?
As I explained here on FR long ago, I have been writing a Master’s Thesis in Political Science and collecting research data on the opinions of various political constituencies on the Obama eligibility issue. I am a member of many web sites of all political persuasions where I could collect data on those varying opinions. Sometimes you have to join in order to post. If that bothers you, oh well!
I wonder how many regular posting members of the Huffington Post have advocated the convening of a Grand Jury investigation of Bararck Hussein Obama II with the subpoena power of a prosecuting attorney being utilized to force release of Obama’s long form, vault copy, Certificate of Live Birth and calling witnesses to testify on this issue under oath. Those have been my positions stated in well over 50 different posts here at Free Republic and on other political bulliten board web sites.
So why did so many state legislatures rush to ratify the 17th?
Were you part of the Obama '08 election wave of college voters ?
You nailed it! Well done! NS, fighting with others and name calling on FR since 2001. A very angry person that is no way, shape, or form what FR stands for.
Thank you for the ping Lucy, excellent post!
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