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Will posting comments here put YOU on the government's watch list?
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | October 10, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 10/10/2010 6:46:16 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Several developments have occurred in recent days that indicate something as innocuous as visiting pro-gun rights websites that are critical of government Constitutional compliance, and especially participating in comments and forums, can results in heightened law enforcement scrutiny and even as a supporting criteria for "legal" intervention.

On Friday, I told WarOnGuns readers I was aware of a child welfare case in New Hampshire where one of the criterion for removing a child from its parents was an ostensible membership of the father in what protective services was characterizing as "a militia known as the Oath Keepers."

Long-time readers know we've discussed Oath Keepers--specifically not a militia group--many times, including attempts by the Department of Homeland Security, the Southern Poverty Law Center, opportunistic politicians, and certain media outlets to conflate them with violent haters. For this, and other reasons, I told WoG readers I was deferring to Rhodes to take the lead on this, and maintaining contact with him behind the scenes.

He has since issued this report, used as the basis for a WorldNetDaily story by Bob Unruh. It appears the father in question's tie to OathKeepers was that he commented on their forums. A danger, per Rhodes:

But an even more fundamental point is that regardless of the other allegations, it is utterly unconstitutional for government agencies to list Mr. Irish’s association with Oath Keepers in an affidavit in support of a child abuse order to remove his daughter from his custody. Talk about chilling speech!


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhofascism; cheyenneirish; codrea; enemieslist; examiner; guns; oathkeepers; obama; rights
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To: SumProVita

“If it’s a list of those who are against the policies of this present government administration, I will be PROUD to be on it!”

I know I turned myself in (and “almost everyone I know”) when Obama asked folks to report opponents of Obamacare by email.


81 posted on 10/10/2010 9:22:31 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Paladin2

I’m SandRat


82 posted on 10/10/2010 9:26:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They will start by using the IRS to harass everyone they can pinpoint.....

******

Been there and done that.


83 posted on 10/10/2010 9:57:54 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Travis McGee
Being that your first three books an A2, and A1 and an AK respectively, I'm here to lobby for a flatop A4 if and when we have a next cover:

You can call it "Enemies: Getting on their lists and then shooting them with this thing."

84 posted on 10/10/2010 10:00:06 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: ThunderSleeps; Neil E. Wright

Interesting thread,,,TANKS,,,

Lets run the numbers,,,

The Military has about 2 million total around the world,,,

Total LEO’s number about 1 million total in the country,,,

American gun owners number about 90,000,000 at this point,,,

That makes us the largest land army on earth IMO,,,

There is no way the gubmint can control anything but some

large cities in the north and/or west coast,,,


85 posted on 10/10/2010 10:06:24 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ThunderSleeps

All ready gone here...Ret. and living high up in the mountains in a very prepper conservative Town/area. You have some very, very valid points.. but... get the heck out of Dodge as fast as you possibly can NOW TS. Do not wait for the darn day the schumer hits the fan. (When martial law is enacted...interstate travel to your retreat will be 100% stopped by the NG within 8 hours.) Our motto here is...If yer gonna go down at least go down swingin’. FEMA Camps? Ain’t happenin’ to this old boy!...EVER. Stay safe.


86 posted on 10/10/2010 10:08:47 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Neil E. Wright

Articles like these remind me of the old days on FR, like when one of us was visited by some secret service agents, that kind of thing. The paranoia was pretty thick, and I was so worried about retribution that I first signed up as “
Don’t wanna be audited”.

Ahh, the good old days, when all you had to worry about was an IRS audit.


87 posted on 10/10/2010 11:15:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I am Christopher May (really), and I demand the honor of being first on Obama’s list.


88 posted on 10/10/2010 11:38:49 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: Neil E. Wright
I get your gist.

However, the way back is through STATES' RIGHTS!

There will be no CWII as so many like to imagine on this and other boards. That said, there could be a benevolent RVII through States' Rights efforts. The movement is building and I believe that is our last best hope to restore our Constitutional heritage.

Even if the 20 something lawsuits against obamicare don't pass Supreme Court decisions, STATE NULLIFICATION, as in jury nullification, can just tell the Fedgov to shove it.

Once again, I ask what would the Fedgov do if enough States just said NO? And how many States would it take to stand firm? I believe that 7 to 10 could make the difference.

What? The Fedgov stops sending tax dollars back to those States? What if those same States stopped sending tax receipts to the Fedgov? What would be the Fedgov's recourse? Military invasion? I highly doubt it. This is not the 1800's. NO ONE, including the WH has the stomach for that in this day.

I foresee negotiations with the States who stand firm and the WH eventually capitulating. That would be a historical Constitutional win for the balance of power. It would be the first step back to our Constitutional roots, and would most likely grow from there, providing the "gimmes" don't build too much power.

89 posted on 10/11/2010 12:02:54 AM PDT by A Navy Vet ( An Oath Is Forever.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I stopped caring what “lists” I might be on many years ago.

I guess I would too if I was a Dead Corpse. I really don't care either, I guess, because I have posted vile things about our homosexual Marxist president and that vile lifestyle of his--only because I stick to facts and reason, of course. Oh well, I am ready to fight for my life and freedom. It is time.

90 posted on 10/11/2010 12:11:23 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Neil E. Wright

Probably will and copies of your posts will be found in Sandy Burglar’s pants...


91 posted on 10/11/2010 12:12:23 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Liberty Valance
You can wave at them if you'd like.

They're not really worth waving all five fingers.

92 posted on 10/11/2010 1:09:47 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Neil E. Wright; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

I’m sure I’m on it already.

PING!


93 posted on 10/11/2010 1:46:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Well I can tell you that everytime I have flown for the past several years, I have been "randomly" selected for a thorough pat-down by TSA. It's become sort of a running joke between my wife and I.

I wonder if other Freepers have the same kind of "random" treatment at airports?

94 posted on 10/11/2010 2:32:37 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 55 days away from outliving Curly Howard)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Ha ! About 20 years ago when I first began to pay attention to politics I attended a Rush to Excellence concert ... during which the thought occurred to me that I might be exposing myself to becoming "listed". LOL.
95 posted on 10/11/2010 3:20:22 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I used to be concerned about this when I was posting on FR in 1999, in the Clinton regime.

Then, I figured—in for a penny, in for a pound.

I am sure there are Obama drones monitoring this site daily.

Sometimes they post as “concern trolls”.

To zot with them.


96 posted on 10/11/2010 4:35:25 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

The American Civil Liberties Union is one of America’s worst enemies and should be destroyed

(any one out there miss that?)


97 posted on 10/11/2010 4:52:37 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Sparticus

It would be interesting if FR would allow multiple users to share a screen name. Then we could all be Sparticus or somesuch.


98 posted on 10/11/2010 5:29:13 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SamAdams76

Maybe if you stopped traveling disguised as an Amish farmer you’d fare better. ;-)


99 posted on 10/11/2010 5:36:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SamAdams76
Well I can tell you that everytime I have flown for the past several years, I have been "randomly" selected for a thorough pat-down by TSA. It's become sort of a running joke between my wife and I.

I wonder if other Freepers have the same kind of "random" treatment at airports?

I used to get it every time I flew--prior to 9/11. Now, it's rare. (Immediately after 9/11, though, I was practically strip-searched...)


<sarc>Remember, you just need to look as Muslim as possible.</sarc>

100 posted on 10/11/2010 5:37:02 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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