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1 posted on 10/04/2010 1:59:33 AM PDT by jdirt
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Deportation. Nobody wins in 2012 without coming out in favor of it.


2 posted on 10/04/2010 2:05:19 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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Don’t count your Hatches before they chicken!


3 posted on 10/04/2010 2:37:12 AM PDT by RushingWater
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This is total BS. Hatch is a deal maker like most of the Republican leadership. We need to wait till the new congress sets things straight and fossils like face lift Hatch can take up marbles.


5 posted on 10/04/2010 2:47:47 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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It's just not good enough. The invaders are criminals by their very being here, and they should have to leave the country never allowed to return for any reason.

Besides that, Hatch's bill responds to the problem that used to exist. Now, after that weekend shooting, we should be at war with Mexico. Drones into Pakistan? How about drones and taking over the southern border of that lake?

Hatch is "an hour late and a dollar short" on this, and one of the reasons the problem has become as bad as it is.

6 posted on 10/04/2010 2:52:18 AM PDT by grania
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My senators are pro-amnesty, liberal wanks Boxer and Feinstein. I’d call them but doing so would be fruitless as I know they both support and want amnesty.


8 posted on 10/04/2010 2:58:04 AM PDT by South40 (Filled with hatred for those who disagree, democrats are the most intolerant bigots on earth)
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Any bill that suggests illegal immigration be seriously addressed is gourmet veto bait under the current executive tyranny.
9 posted on 10/04/2010 3:05:55 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("America is in the womb of the Leftist--will she be reborn to glory or sucked down into the sink?")
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It’s both Halloween and election time. Hatch, the RINO, is pulling out his conservative costume.

I hope Utahans will dispatch this guy like they did Bennett.


10 posted on 10/04/2010 3:14:26 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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We’re coming for you next Orin, Tea Party conservatives are going to change the way they do business in D.C. You can’t hide, Orin.


11 posted on 10/04/2010 3:15:15 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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Anyone who trusts a single damn thing Hatch does or says is a sucker.


17 posted on 10/04/2010 3:59:06 AM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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DEPORT them all... if they run... kill them... if they get up... Zombieland rule #1... double tap.

LLS

18 posted on 10/04/2010 4:39:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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hatch will be removed from office like all rinos... one of these days.

LLS


19 posted on 10/04/2010 4:40:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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But Hussein says to make every illegal who will have been here long enough to be naturalized by November 2012, a citizen!

Actually he said ‘those who have been here 2 years’, just so we don’t ALL figure out his true motive.


21 posted on 10/04/2010 5:19:47 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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The only way to stop the illegals is to change our welfare system, which in many cases are controlled locally by the kin of the immigrants or maybe the illegals them selves in the border states

But of course no one wants to change the welfare system because most people has a family member living high off the hog on social services so if they change it then these people would have to take care of their own and their illegal offspring.

There will always be people who need help, but our welfare system has become ridicules, lets get back to the basics, beans, potatoes and other staples, not a blank check.

Most people on welfare today eats better than the average working person did 50 years ago, if they were starving how did they get so fat? so the tax payers buy their food and they spend their money on toys, 4 wheelers, computers, cellphones, etc. not to mention giving their money to the drug lords.

An illegal coming to the united states the first time, especially if they have a relative in the social services would feel like they were going to the big rock candy mountains, do you blame them? they have not been spoiled rotten like the welfare generation in this country.

Hatch or no one else is going to try to over haul social services because they know which side their bread is buttered on, by the very people who are hollering about the illegals.


22 posted on 10/04/2010 5:22:45 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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Sorry Sen Hatch, but .. WRONG ANSWER. Here's how we 'secure the border' and take back the part of the USA that the Mexican Drug Cartels have 'claimed as their own territory' (Really. how disgusting is that!).

We all know by now of the semi-newly created 'Northcom', the United States Northern Command, that's stationed right here in the good ole USA. They're also called the Pentagon's 'Homeland Defense Agency' (pretty neat, huh.)

Well, don't be shocked Sen, but how about we use IT exactly for that? Like we send some units down to 'Injun Country' to ferret these maggots out.

  1. We reconstitute some LRRP teams. From the Rangers and/or from the 1st Cav - like in the early days of Vietnam. We also organize some teams from Army SF Group, even reactivate a few SF Groups if req'd, and also from Marine Force Recon Units and natch, Sniper Teams.

  2. After we get these 'boys' organized at a Base Camp on the outskirts of 'Injun Country', we let them loose to; 'do the things they do'. In short - take out the bad guys. (Cry Havoc! .. and let slip The Dogs of War)

  3. To run things and be in overall command as to mission ;objectives, we set up another old fave like MACV-SOG (a different name, natch). They answer to no one but a Lt Gen from Northcom. And Security Clearance would be ABOVE Top Secret. This gives the ijits and Brass Hats in DC plausible deniability if someone accidentally shoots a Rancher's Prize Bull.

  4. Lastly as to their 'Mission Objective'. That's easy, it's two words -- 'Black Flag'.
In a few months the Mexican Drug Cartels would be history. There'd also be no coyotes smuggling illegals by the truck load and no 'assault weapons going south' (/s). The Border would be sealed tight as a drum. And if things shift to the Gulf and/or West Coast we get the SEALS involved. And it doesn't violate the Posse Comitatus Act as they won't be doing 'Law Enforcement work' and arresting US Citizens.
25 posted on 10/04/2010 6:01:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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Any ‘Rat enabler like Orrin Hatch, who wrote and performed a song praising his ‘dear friend’, the late Fat Teddy K, is NOT to be trusted.


26 posted on 10/04/2010 6:01:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (FR is a "RINO FREE ZONE" See RINO-supporting activity? See RINOs? Turn 'em in!!)
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Exit tracking system?

We need an Entrance Tracking System first and foremost.

Hatch is like McCain — they both seem to just be waking up to the fact that we even have a border and even have trouble on/near it.

The best solution for the border problems is to retire all those old codgers who have been on Capitol Hill for a decade or longer and have done nothing but create more problems than they have actually resolved.


27 posted on 10/04/2010 6:06:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Same old D.C. scam a hack wants to have a bill passed but knows it won’t happen but it keeps the people in line,see last thirty years.


28 posted on 10/04/2010 6:16:51 AM PDT by Vaduz
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Down the Hatch.

Utah is, surprisingly, one of the states that doesn't do real id for its drivers licenses

"On February 16, 2007, Utah unanimously passed a resolution that opposes the REAL ID Act. "

29 posted on 10/04/2010 6:47:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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If you care about illegal immigration, how bout calling your Senators and ask that they co-sponsor this bill?

If Hatch really gave a damn, why is he only submitting this bill now, just before election and lame-duck session? Why didn't he or other Republicans put this in at the beginning of this year? Submitting it now guarantees nothing will come of it. Hatch, you're playing Politics again.

30 posted on 10/04/2010 6:59:07 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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911 Tape Released in Mexican Pirate Attack on U.S. Couple

Published October 03, 2010 | FoxNews.com

FOX NEWS.COM

A Colorado tourist was shot in the head and thrown from his jet ski as his wife frantically tried to dodge bullets and escape from Mexican pirates marauding on a U.S.-Mexico border lake, according to a transcript from a 911 call released Saturday.

Search teams over the weekend combed the U.S. side of Falcon Lake for David Michael Hartley, 30, whose wife told police he was shot in the the head Thursday after being ambushed by gunmen on boats.

The gunmen are suspected pirates who have turned Falcon Lake, a water-skiing and bass fishing hotspot down the border from Laredo, into uneasy waters for fishermen and boaters. There have been at least five reported run-ins with pirates on the lake this year, though prior holdups had never been deadly.

In a 911 call made to deputies on Thursday, Tiffany Hartley, 29, describes how her husband was thrown off his Jet Ski after he was shot in the back of the head. Hartley told authorities that she was forced to leave her husband in the water as pirates in three boats fired shots at her.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/01/search-teams-seek-man-shot-mexican-waters/print


32 posted on 10/04/2010 7:42:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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