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The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS
www.newsyahoo.com ^ | 8-25-10 | Adam Cohen

Posted on 08/25/2010 9:52:33 AM PDT by 444Flyer

Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway - and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre - and scary - rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants - with no need for a search warrant.

It is a dangerous decision - one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1984; 9thcircuit; bigbrother; corruption; fourthamendment; gps; gpstracking; kozinski; orwell; policestate; privacyrights; rapeofliberty; rfid; righttoprivacy; sionnsar; surveillance; warrantlesssearch
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To: samtheman

I would summize that any “object” attached to you or a piece of property in your posession could be removed without penalty...

But if you do so, know that whomever “is” watching and tracking you will know you did so, and you may just get that “knock on yer door”...

And if they are really watching you, there will be more than just a GPS tracker device somewhere around you...

Not that I am inciting paranoia or anything...;-)


101 posted on 08/27/2010 6:02:17 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


102 posted on 08/27/2010 6:14:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stevie_d_64
I would summize that any “object” attached to you or a piece of property in your posession could be removed without penalty...
I can think of one obvious exception: if your vehicle gets "booted". Better not try removing that device on your own.

I went into traffic court once to try to argue against a parking ticket I got (in Washington DC) and while I was waiting my turn I witnessed the case of a girl who had $3000 in unpaid parking tickets (!) and also was charged with trying to remove the boot on her car.

Her defense: "It wasn't me, it was my boyfriend."

103 posted on 08/27/2010 6:21:25 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: DustyMoment
I don't believe that the 9th Circus has read the 4th Amendment . . . . . . . or any other part of the Constitution for that matter!

What do you mean?

They probably each have a copy of their favorite constitution on a podium in their living room.

104 posted on 08/27/2010 6:24:17 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: mountn man
They've seen pictures of the Constitution

The so-called judges who came up with this ruling would recoil from an actual copy of the Constitution like Dracula recoils from a crucifix.

105 posted on 08/27/2010 6:49:45 AM PDT by zort
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To: Smokin' Joe; FARS

Your cell phone can track you within a few feet without GPS. I actually saw my phone tracked that way simply by using cell tower triangulation. It was demonstrated before my very eyes.

And I was not making a call at the time.

When we drove the U-haul from Seattle to our farm in central Kentucky my phone was constantly pinging cell towers. It is what cell phones do. All of those pings are saved.

Right now, if necessary, law enforcement could subpoena the cell tower pings from my provider from last June and track my move to Kentucky. They would know where I was at any time during the entire drive.

The only way to keep it from doing that is to turn off your phone.

If you have a cell phone, your location is being logged at all times - and saved for seven years.


106 posted on 08/27/2010 6:51:50 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: FReepaholic

Obama’s minions have argued that they can track you via your cellphone WITHOUT A WARRANT.

Where are those liberal idiots who were complaining that the Patriot Act allowed the government to monitor calls between the US and known terrorist telephone numbers?


107 posted on 08/27/2010 7:40:42 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: 444Flyer

Well, I guess this will just create a market for devices to detect GPS transponders.

“Gee guys, I guess it just fell off in my driveway.”


108 posted on 08/27/2010 7:55:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: samtheman

Yep, those would be a no-no...


109 posted on 08/27/2010 9:53:27 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: RobRoy

The only way to keep it from doing that is to turn off your phone.

Not enough. Remove the battery. One of my projects was at a defense related client who shall go unnamed, and batteries were required to be removed from cell phones. No transmitting devices (pagers and the like) were permitted as well.


110 posted on 08/27/2010 10:47:08 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: Fred Hayek

Actually, “Airplane mode” is enough. It stops transmitting.


111 posted on 08/27/2010 10:52:15 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Amen.


112 posted on 08/27/2010 9:32:31 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Quix

This might interest you.


113 posted on 08/27/2010 9:45:23 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: FARS; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

OLD SARGE AND ANY NATIONAL GUARD CONNECTED FREEPERS . . . HAVE YOU PICKED UP ANY SUCH INFO THROUGH YOUR SOCIAL NETWORK?

PING TO END TIMES LIST AND CONSULTANTS.

SEE POST #83


114 posted on 08/27/2010 9:50:54 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Shadowstrike

THX I PINGED THE GROUP.


115 posted on 08/27/2010 9:51:09 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Firstly thanks for following up on #83

Secondly you might want to look at this on AntiMullah:

SCIENCE CONFIRMING ANCIENT MAYAN 2012/13 PREDICTION

http://alanpetersroundup.blogspot.com/2010/08/science-pointing-to-accuracy-of-mayan.html

Beyond Worry!
Unstoppable Equivalency:
100 million hydrogen bombs
BLASTING PLANET EARTH!

Enjoy Your Life now AS BEST AS YOU CAN
because even if you survive it won’t be fun to be around
IN WHAT’S LEFT.


116 posted on 08/28/2010 12:26:06 AM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: FARS

It all happens around the Eve of Festivus..


117 posted on 08/28/2010 12:35:37 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FARS

.... God did say he was going to burn it...He flooded it,,,now he is completing as written in the bible.

Whats new? Now we have a date!!!!


118 posted on 08/28/2010 2:26:05 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: FARS

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting, for sure.

Thanks.


119 posted on 08/28/2010 5:52:43 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: FARS
Has anyone ever considered the effect of the thought of a 'coming Apocalypse' on the lawless and looting set?

For those without fear of God because either they know Him not nor accept His dominion over all things, such talk is an even stronger signal that a bad verdict in Watts.

Stop and consider the purpose inherent in such announcements reinforcing the concept that anything they want, they'd be better off to take as soon as possible (rather than wait for the Gubmint check) and we start to see an ugly pattern of destructive potential in such talk.

End of the world scenarios are all fun and games until someone loses a planet. This plays into the coming Dark Age all too well, and underscores the need to be prepared, not just for possible natural cataclysm, but for the nearly inevitable sociocultural and political ones which can be created by the belief that an unavoidable natural cataclysm is coming.

120 posted on 08/28/2010 6:32:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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