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Ben at the controls [Bernanke, the Fed]
NY Post ^ | August 08, 2010 | Jonathon Trugman

Posted on 08/10/2010 6:42:47 PM PDT by CutePuppy

That noise you hear, that's the sound of helicopters in the distance.

While they may be in the distance, they are closer than they have been in quite some time, and chief pilot Ben Bernanke is leading the squadron.

We are now coming up on three months of very anemic economic growth, so limp many economists fear we are closer than we have ever been to a double dip. GDP registered a paltry 2.4% in the second quarter, a very disappointing number, especially after the economy has fallen so far despite the huge spending in the stimulus plan.

The only real economic successes we have had have been TARP, and the Fed's first round of quantitative easing, which ended in March. TARP was primarily the brainchild of former Treasury Chief Hank Paulson.

TARP turned out quite well, as almost all of the money lent to banks has been returned to the government -- some in less than a year and with a tidy profit to boot for taxpayers. Not so evil-sounding when you look at the facts, is it?

Quantitative easing, on the other hand, is the practice of non-traditional monetary easing by the Fed, and generally includes moves outside of fed funds interest-rate changes.

Quntitative easing is essentially, but not only, the increasing of the money supply through purchases by the Fed. It can be accomplished by purchasing securities as mundane as Tim Geithner's Treasuries or it can be more exotic, like purchasing mortgage-backed securities. The US still does not permit the Fed to buy corporate bonds -- like many other countries -- which would have been a good addition to FinReg.

When the Fed purchases bonds from banks or in the open market, the banks receive cash for the bonds, thereby increasing the money supply.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bernanke; deflation; doubledip; economy; federalreserve; greatrecession; qe2010; quantease; recession; spendforget; tarp; thefed
Good primer on "quantitative easing" concept, and a series argument for needing it soon (to relieve economic stagnation and stave off [potential] deflation). There are oher opinions including, among others, the perennial "The Fed never gets anything right, it should be abolished" and therefore anything it does at any time is a mistake.

QE is not the best solution to the current U.S. economic problems, but Federal Reserve's monetary policy cannot and should not be expected to fix the economy overburdened by stupid, destructive, never-ever-working-as-politicians-intended regulations, mandates and Kenseyan fiscal policy of government deficit spending.

Real estate was the epicenter, the vital organ if you will, of this economic collapse, and it's where the majority of recovery efforts should be focused. Only the Fed has had an impact in this area to date. None of the half-baked, half-hearted programs conjured up by the career politicians in the administration have had an impact. Think HAMP, PPIP, etc.

TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

1 posted on 08/10/2010 6:42:50 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy
Time to Print, Print, Print - B, 2010 August 07, by Jonathan R. Laing

Basically, the Fed will use the surplus it's getting from the interest on its $1.3T QE1 portfolio of MBS (at about 4%-5% interest rate, instead of lending money to the banks at 0.25%-0.5%) to buy new Treasury bonds. This is better than simply sending these funds to Treasury and, in theory, should unburden banks' balance sheets and higher reserve requirements and help the banks lend money to businesses because right now they are paying more in interest for attracting capital than they can borrow from the Fed.

It's not the best solution to the U.S. economic problems, but Federal Reserve's monetary policy cannot and should not be expected to fix the economy overburdened by stupid, destructive, never-ever-working-as-politicians-intended Kenseyan fiscal policy of government deficit spending.

And the theoretical multiplier effect that deficit spending is supposed to deliver — excess economic growth for every dollar the government spends — doesn't seem to be working. No kidding!

TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

2 posted on 08/10/2010 6:45:21 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

There is no instrument of monetary policy that can save us from this correction. They will only make the crisis worse, far worse.


3 posted on 08/10/2010 6:51:39 PM PDT by casuist (Audi alteram partem.)
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To: CutePuppy
s/b series serious argument
4 posted on 08/10/2010 6:52:14 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Economies are too important to trust to governments. That goes double for private corporations like the Fed.


5 posted on 08/10/2010 6:57:03 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: casuist

All of the talking heads, economists, et al this AM on CNBC said the Fed would not buy back MBS, that it was just too soon to do so and if they did it would signal a much bleaker picture than the markets are seeing.

They all agreed the Fed would simply change its language in its statement to reflect the slowing economy and to lay the foundation for future buying should the economy worsen.

So the question I have is this.

What did the Feds see that all those talking heads economists from Wall Street didn’t?


6 posted on 08/10/2010 6:59:29 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: casuist
There is no instrument of monetary policy that can save us...

Agreed. Not until or unless the U.S. gets her fiscal "house" (and Senate) in order... Government's fiscal policies are the problem, so that's where the solutions must reside.

Articles just provide the evidence to the harm and ineffectiveness of attempted fiscal "solutions" and the evidence of some help of monetary policies in rescuing the U.S. (and the rest of the world) from financial disaster resulting from destructive fiscal and regulatory practices.

7 posted on 08/10/2010 7:01:31 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
All of the talking heads, economists, et al this AM on CNBC said the Fed would not buy back MBS, that it was just too soon to do so and if they did it would signal a much bleaker picture than the markets are seeing. ... So the question I have is this. What did the Feds see that all those talking heads economists from Wall Street didn’t?

If you put it this way ( ;-) ), the answer is obvious - the Fed sees a bleaker picture, as Bernanke has recently testified ("unusually uncertain outlook").

You are right about the talking heads and "predictions":

Fed Won't Signal More Easing: Ex-Governor Meyer - CNBC, 2010 August 10

Fed Can't Do Much More to Boost Economy: El-Erian - CNBC, 2010 August 10

8 posted on 08/10/2010 7:12:18 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Surely, someone is taking notes on this disaster as to what NOT to do!
Some say TPTB are trying to inflate their way out. But just look at velocity.
The ‘deflationistas’ vs the ‘inflationistas’.
Who will win?
(Will the excess capital screw us all when it ends up in commodities? Oil $140?)


9 posted on 08/10/2010 7:15:10 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: CutePuppy

I just wonder though...

With so many Wall Street insiders saying the Fed would never do what they just did, how much of an impact will it have not only on the markets but on the economy.

WIll the masses run and jump back behind the sofa again, holding up more and more money, refusing to invest, spend and hire people?

Seems to me that the Fed is seeing something the Wall Street crew isn’t.

Which is actually a scary idea.


10 posted on 08/10/2010 7:53:21 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

[Seems to me that the Fed is seeing something the Wall Street crew isn’t.]

Like maybe just how much A$$Paper they’ve got in their MBS portfolio?


11 posted on 08/10/2010 7:58:22 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: griswold3
Some say TPTB are trying to inflate their way out. But just look at velocity. The ‘deflationistas’ vs the ‘inflationistas’.

That's the multi-$T question. Bernanke stopped QE1 in March, precisely for that reason - he doesn't want to inflate unnecessarily, but now he feels the need to stave off deflation, and to keep an economic recovery from keeling off (he helped engineer the financial / banking recovery, sine qua non economic recovery would be impossible). And there are many who agree with him; author makes a decent case for them:

The real problem is the spending and regulatory policies of the current administration and Congress, and uncertainty ("second, third, fourth etc. shoe dropping") of the laws that are still in the pipeline. It's the Obama factor / Zero effect in this dysfunctional economy. That's not something that the Fed or monetary policy can fix.

The Uncertainty Principle — II [Dodd-Frank] Only 30 times more complicated than Sarbanes-Oxley - WSJ Editorial (free), 2010 July 16

Government and the Uncertainty Trap - It's not a lack of liquidity that's holding back our economy. Investors and business leaders are waiting to learn more about future taxes and regulations - WSJ Opinion (free), 2010 August 07, by Thomas F. Siems

That's why consumers are not spending (savings rate grew rapidly from 2 years ago) and profitable companies are sitting on piles of cash, investing it anywhere else in the world (mostly in Asia), except expanding or hiring in the U.S. And who can blame them when the Obama's prescribed "medicine" is demonizing them and hitting them with higher taxes, higher expenses (ObamaCare etc.) and uncertainty in regulatory environment?

12 posted on 08/10/2010 8:08:04 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
how much of an impact will it have not only on the markets but on the economy. ... Seems to me that the Fed is seeing something the Wall Street crew isn’t.

Maybe the Fed and WS are in sync, actually. CNBC's "bull-sessions" notwithstanding, I've seen a lot of push in serious financial press (FT, WSJ, Barrons etc.) for the Fed's QE2, even from the "unusual suspects" (see post #2). I guess the central idea is to keep the economy on the heat pad before the November elections, to see how much damage might be undone on the fiscal front after that.

And the WS had the positive answer today - just before the Fed announcement implying mild QE became widely available, broad market started to shoot up, recovering most early losses. So I don't see a diversion in real life, as much as I expect it in the commentary and "predictions" or attempts to affect the Fed with the outside "open" arguments.

13 posted on 08/10/2010 8:30:45 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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The global response to the Fed’s QE is a stock market selloff.

Deflation. Falling asset prices.


14 posted on 08/10/2010 8:34:16 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CutePuppy

15 posted on 08/10/2010 11:14:34 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (California Bankruptcy in 4... 3... 2...)
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To: Southack
The global response to the Fed’s QE is a stock market selloff.

Higher market volatility usually follows the Fed policy decisions for the next 2-3 days, one way or the other. Hedge funds position themselves for volatility in advance of announcement, then spin it to benefit their book. Some will say that the Fed is doing the right thing fighting deflation and providing more liquidity for the banks to make loans ("BUY"), other side will say that "unexpected" QE2 / QE-lite shows that the Fed sees more serious trouble / double-dip / recession for the economy ("SELL")...

It's summer time; the heat is on, the volume is low, and the "market" has been starving for some volatility. Throw in erratic liquidity on stock exchanges and HFTs or possible PPT intervention and... I think it's best to ignore the short-term "market signals" and explanations by the "experts" on the news in the few days following all Fed policy announcements. People will speculate about the sizeIt's an excuse / opportunity for a few trades that don't say much of anything more than the decision itself.

Deflation. Falling asset prices.

Yep, could be toxic - vicious circle, self-fulfilling prophecy psychology change. Bill Gross of Pimco and some other active bond managers are positioning their portfolios for deflation. That's more important to understand than the direction of the stock market in next few days of volatility.

Bernanke is trying to avoid another "Japan," which had "lost two decades" to deflation already. But the Fed's monetary policy has never been a panacea against the destructive Keynesian "spend it and forget it" Congress and administration's fiscal and regulatory policies.

16 posted on 08/11/2010 1:43:24 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Bernanke is copying Japan, not avoiding it. So is Congress.

Debt is deflationary. To escape deflation you have to lower your outstanding debt.

The traditional, ethical way to do this is to “Liquidate, liquidate, liquidate.”

Of course, the MBA kiddies think that they can outsmart the System by printing enough money to devalue the currency.

Won’t work. The only that works is if you have a criminal mindset and are counterfeiting Dollars...because otherwise there is debt being created to introduce each new Dollar into circulation, and that new debt is just as deflationary as any other.

At some point, you accumulate so much debt that the deflationary drag from all of your debt overwhelms any short-term potential inflationary gains from spending, anyway.

Debt sticks around, it accumulates...whereas spending is very short-term, temporary.

The net effect is that the “print money now” MBA kiddies will simply end up copying Japan’s precise response to deflation in Tokyo from 1989 to date.

Instead of outsmarting the System, they will be mired in its deflationary trap.


17 posted on 08/11/2010 10:55:20 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The traditional, ethical way to do this is to “Liquidate, liquidate, liquidate.”

We are not exactly in the period that can be described as the "ethical age".

Debt sticks around, it accumulates...whereas spending is very short-term, temporary.

Yep. Friends come and go, enemies accumulate.

If only government did what it tells people to do with their personal finances - get rid of unnecessary debt. If they used new, long-term low-interest debt to "refinance" old, high interest debt, instead of piling up more debt, it would be a different story.

Unless and until Congress (with the help of supportive or pliant President) stop deficit spending (at best, thinking they can inflate the economy; at worst, not thinking beyond short-term money grab) there is not much that the central bank can do. Sure, it can help bring [another] recession, but it will only get the blame for it and give the Congress and President another reason to "stimulate" people into oblivion with more spending and the vicious cycle of deflationary spiral.

But there is little evidence that even Republicans currentry in Congress understand that, instead of just looking to change the spending "priorities" to their own pork. We've seen that already in the (first?) "lost decade" of the 'Naughts.

18 posted on 08/11/2010 2:16:00 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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