Posted on 08/06/2010 1:17:40 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
Before birther row, Lt. Col. Lakin racked up medals as flight surgeon
By Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN August 6, 2010 2:51 p.m. EDT
(CNN) -- Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin is a poster soldier for the so-called birther movement, but for 17 years prior to his court-martial proceedings, the flight surgeon served around the globe, racking up a chest full of medals.
Military prosecutors allege that the Colorado native intentionally missed a plane in April after disobeying four lawful orders from superiors. Lakin has said he refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he sees proof that President Obama was born in the U.S.
In a YouTube explanation posted before he was charged, Lakin said he had no choice but the "distasteful one of inviting my own court-martial."
"If [Obama] is ineligible, then indeed, all orders are illegal because all orders have the origin with the commander in chief," he said.
The Uniform Code of Military Justice says the maximum punishment for both offenses -- missing his plane and disobeying lawful orders -- is a dishonorable discharge and up to two years in confinement. A guilty verdict could also result in forfeiture of his pay, which totals $7,959 a month, according to a charge sheet provided by a group sponsoring his defense.
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I've seen the video before. That video is in no way contradictory to CNN piece. Lakin does not believe Obama was born in HI, or at least he has not seen compelling evidence that Obama was born in HI.
Lakin is not asserting Obama isn't an NBC because his father wasn't a US citizen. If he were, there would be no need to obtain the HI BC. As a matter of fact, you'd stipulate the HI birth, and then argue that as a matter of law, he still doesn't qualify. That isn't what Lakin is alleging. CNN is right, for once.
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/
Again, Lakin expressly wants access to the birth certificate.
Read the site. I’m not posting anything from that site.
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You wouldn't be...ahem...exaggerating a tad, would you?
Again, Lakin expressly wants access to the birth certificate.
Then it shouldn't be too difficult for you to find a quote then, should it?
No harder than you finding a quote stating - WHICH YOU INITIALLY STATED - that Lakin DOESN'T want the birth certificate.
To anyone who is not intellectually challenged, that is clear.
Press Release April 7, 2010
“Unless it is established (by this sufficient proof that should be easily within your power to provide) that you are Constitutionally eligible to serve as President and my Commander-in-Chief, I, and all other military officers may be following illegal orders. Therefore, sir, until an original birth certificate is brought forward that validates your eligibility and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility; I cannot in good conscience obey ANY military orders.”
An original birth certificate is but one way to prove his eligibility.
His father's British citizenship is one way to prove he isn't.
Fact: A natural born president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove ( with the **best** evidence) to any soldier or citizen that he was indeed natural born and eligible to be president and Commander in Chief.
Conclusion: That Obama has treated military officers and citizens in the manner that he has, strongly indicates that he is a usurper.
Lakin weaseled out of his duty.
The true hero is the flight surgeon who took Lakin's place in Afghanistan.
"hole"???
Well, yes ... Barry Hussein's tawdry life is a hole. A void. A vacuum. An emptiness.
Fortuitous typo!
Seriously, are you obtuse. I'm REALLY trying to be kind, but either you're being intentionally argumentative, or you're dense. There can be no in-between.
Obama was either born in HI, or he wasn't. But, if Lakin is going to argue that Obama isn't eligible even if he WAS born in HI, then why ask for the HI birth certificate at all?
Tell me, were you this eager to have Presidents "prove things" when service members were suing GWB to have him "prove" that Operation Iraqi Freedom wasn't unconstitutional?
I'm sure you were, because I'm sure you're an intellectually honest person, right?
The Doctor has more balls than any General in office. The Generals should be ashamed of them selves.
But, if Lakin is going to argue that Obama isn't eligible even if he WAS born in HI, then why ask for the HI birth certificate at all?
Seriously, are you obtuse?
If his father is who he says he is then is he qualified to be POTUS since his father had British citizenship at birth which, in turn, gave him dual citizenship?
What is the harm in proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who his father was?
Especially when sending that man into a combat zone?
And if Obama fails to do so with this man - how many other people would Obama be willing to destroy with refusing to simply show his bc... 5, 10, 100, 500, 10,000, 500,000???
Look at the millions of dollars Obama has spent.
WTF is he hiding?
Seriously now - WTF is he hiding??
Yeah, he - like all soldiers - is so stupid he has to be lead.... I am highly offended at your insinuation. Lt. Col. Lakin is a leader, not a follower. He has shown his ability to gather information and make informed decisions and he is incredibly brave to take the road that he knows will likely bring ridicule and pain in order to do what he believes to be honorable and right.
Jumping up and down, and getting red in the face about legal points doesn't make the public relations aspect of Larkin’s case go away. A real natural born American president would **never** treat military officers and other American citizens in the imperial manner that Obama has done. ...Certainly NOT over something as easy to prove as natural born citizenship!
There is more to Obama’s eligibility that mere law. Public relations and public opinion win or lose elections. There is only so much that the DemocRATs can do in the way of fraud. At some point valid ballots will overwhelm even the most brazen Democratic election fraud.
By the way...Were you aware that Rush Limbaugh **respectfully** and **seriously** discussed the Birthers today on his show? Gee! That TWICE in one week that Rush Limbaugh has brought up Obama’s eligibility. Think about that.... TWENTY MILLION ADULT VOTING LISTENERS!
If Obama wants a martyr all he needs to do is throw Larkin in prison! Or...Maybe Larkin will mysteriously be shot to death in the same way Lieutenant Quarles was? Hm?... How many times could that happen without the American public getting suspicious?
Fact: A natural born president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove ( with the **best** evidence) to any soldier or citizen that he was indeed natural born and eligible to be president and Commander in Chief.
Conclusion: That Obama has treated military officers and citizens in the manner that he has, strongly indicates that he is a usurper.
Obama has openly admitted his father was not a US citizen, but a Kenyan, and because of such, Obama, Jr was at the time of his birth, was eligible for Kenyan citizenship.
You're not thinking very rationally, or logically. If you're going to make the argument that Obama isn't eligible despite being born in HI, then there is no factual or legal reason you need to see his birth certificate. The pertinent facts would all be stipulated and are a matter of public record.
The only reason to see Obama's so-called long form birth certificate is to prove or disprove his HI birth, apprently.
The ENTIRE premise of Lakin's argument has NOTHING to do with the nationality of Obama's father, and everything to do with the birth certificate. I have seen no quotes from Lakin nor his counsel that indicate Obama isn't qualified even if he was born in HI. That is not the argument Lakin is making.
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