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To: philman_36
'If his father is who he says he is then is he qualified to be POTUS since his father had British citizenship at birth which, in turn, gave him dual citizenship? "

Obama has openly admitted his father was not a US citizen, but a Kenyan, and because of such, Obama, Jr was at the time of his birth, was eligible for Kenyan citizenship.

You're not thinking very rationally, or logically. If you're going to make the argument that Obama isn't eligible despite being born in HI, then there is no factual or legal reason you need to see his birth certificate. The pertinent facts would all be stipulated and are a matter of public record.

The only reason to see Obama's so-called long form birth certificate is to prove or disprove his HI birth, apprently.

The ENTIRE premise of Lakin's argument has NOTHING to do with the nationality of Obama's father, and everything to do with the birth certificate. I have seen no quotes from Lakin nor his counsel that indicate Obama isn't qualified even if he was born in HI. That is not the argument Lakin is making.

40 posted on 08/06/2010 2:55:14 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
Obama has openly admitted his father was not a US citizen, but a Kenyan, and because of such, Obama, Jr was at the time of his birth, was eligible for Kenyan citizenship.
It would have been British citizenship at the time 'cause Kenya was still a British colony.
Besides, citizenship is established at birth. Eligibility never enters the picture.

So, we've established that his purported father wasn't a US citizen at the time of his birth.
Do you still contend that such a situation makes such a person a natural born citizen and qualifies them to be POTUS despite the copious amount of information that states otherwise?

44 posted on 08/06/2010 3:06:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: OldDeckHand
The only reason to see Obama's so-called long form birth certificate is to prove or disprove his HI birth, apprently.

The so called long form birth certificate even if it proves Obama was born in Hawaii also proves that his Father was not a US citizen and that Obama does not meet the standard of a Natural Born Citizen, Obama would be as he has already stated a native born citizen.

Native born Citizen are those born on our soil to parents that are not citizen,they enjoy the same rights as naturalized citizen, only natural born citizen can be president as well as those colonists that became citizens when this nation was created.

Our first congress defined what a Natural Born Citizen was as the child of US citizen parents (<---<<< note the plural) where ever they might be born.

50 posted on 08/06/2010 3:19:18 PM PDT by usmcobra (NASA outreach to Muslims if I were in charge:The complete collection of "I dream of Jeannie" on DVD.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Please see

Obama Release Your Records

Included is a Scribd upload of a letter Ltc. Lakin wrote to Obama requesting that Obama produce his original birth certificate so that the question of his eligibility as a NBC can be finally answered.

From Ltc. Lakin's letter to Obama

Since the fall of 2008, I have been troubled by reports that your original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with many other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding your place of birth and "natural born" status. Many people mistake the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity--the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. Many do not understand that cthe online document was from 2007, generated by computer, laser-printed, and merely a certification that there is an original birth certificate on file which may or may not be sufficiently probative. An original birth certificate is the underlying document that presumably includes a hospital and attending physician's or midwife's name that should lay to rest the "natural born" dispute.

There are also links to interviews and additional information showing the extent Lakin went to in questioning his command, Senators, congress critters etc about Obama's eligibility.

If his defense has not raised to issue of NBC at trial they are doing a huge injustice to Lakin unless of course the court has ruled Lakin can not use the NBC argument and his attempts to clarify the issue as part of his defense.


132 posted on 08/06/2010 6:38:48 PM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: OldDeckHand
You're not thinking very rationally, or logically. If you're going to make the argument that Obama isn't eligible despite being born in HI, then there is no factual or legal reason you need to see his birth certificate. The pertinent facts would all be stipulated and are a matter of public record.

Not in sworn statements in or submitted to a Court of Law. Pretty much the same as hearsay at this point.

142 posted on 08/06/2010 7:16:07 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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