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To: OldDeckHand
The only reason to see Obama's so-called long form birth certificate is to prove or disprove his HI birth, apprently.

The so called long form birth certificate even if it proves Obama was born in Hawaii also proves that his Father was not a US citizen and that Obama does not meet the standard of a Natural Born Citizen, Obama would be as he has already stated a native born citizen.

Native born Citizen are those born on our soil to parents that are not citizen,they enjoy the same rights as naturalized citizen, only natural born citizen can be president as well as those colonists that became citizens when this nation was created.

Our first congress defined what a Natural Born Citizen was as the child of US citizen parents (<---<<< note the plural) where ever they might be born.

50 posted on 08/06/2010 3:19:18 PM PDT by usmcobra (NASA outreach to Muslims if I were in charge:The complete collection of "I dream of Jeannie" on DVD.)
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To: usmcobra
'The so called long form birth certificate even if it proves Obama was born in Hawaii also proves that his Father was not a US citizen and that Obama does not meet the standard of a Natural Born Citizen, Obama would be as he has already stated a native born citizen. "

Are you completely unfamiliar with the legal principle of "stipulation"? Before the beginning of a trial - any trial - some facts may be stipulated by both parties. Barack Obama would clearly stipulate the fact that his father was not a citizen of the US and the time of Obama's birth. Ergo, if that's your argument, it makes the birth certificate immaterial.

54 posted on 08/06/2010 3:24:42 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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