Posted on 07/22/2010 2:04:52 PM PDT by nasube
Yesterday afternoon, I posted a vanity about this-I had read Sherrod's transcript, and Googled her to find out the details of her father's death, which she mentioned in her NAACP speech.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2556721/posts
She, in the speech mentioned her mother was on the Baker County Ga Board of Education. Long story short, I hit on an article from March 2, 2010, inducting five women in the Southern Rural Black Women’s Hall of Fame. It mentions a "hate crime" against Hosie Miller, and mentions Grace Hall Miller as one of the inductees.
Shirley Sherrod is listed as a speaker at that event-yet no mention is made that her mother is one of the five-or that she is Hosie Miller's daughter.
As far as I know, I'm the first person pretty much anywhere, since this flap began who found her father's name and was able to connect her with it. The MSM didn't until today.
Anyway, I asked yesterday if anyone could find anything about Hosie Miller-I couldn't match the few people by that name in the Social Security Death Index with the date, state, etc.
2 Freepers, I_don't_chat and DJ MacWoW came up with this in response from Ancestry.com:
According to Ancestry death records: Hosie Miller Birth about 1925 Death Date: 25 Mar 1965 County of death Dougherty Age: 39 years County of Residence: Mitchell
Now it says he lived in Mitchell County and died in Dougherty County-both are in Southwest Georgia. Here's what bugs me:
Here's an excerpt from Sherrod's NAACP speech:
It was 45 years ago today that my father’s funeral was held. I was a young girl at the age of 17 when my father was murdered by a white man in Baker County. In Baker County, the murder of black people occurred periodically, and in every case the white men who murdered them were never punished. It was no different in my father’s case. There were three witnesses to his murder, but the grand jury refused to indict the white man who murdered him.”
She had mentioned she lived, as a kid in Baker County, and her family's farm was in Baker County-the MSM today said he was shot by a neighbor over a dispute about cows.
Question: why doesn't the Ancestry.com records say he lived and was killed in Baker County, as Sherrod states?
My own dad died of natural causes years ago-a far less dramatic death, but I know what county he died in.
Other MSM reports metion the KKK was involved. She didn't in her speech-you figure that would be a salient point in a speech on race.
She also mentions the three witnesses, as well as a grand jury refusing to indict the killer.
This woman is, as of today, one of the most famous women in America. She's rich, she has the media eating out of her hand, the President and Secretary of Agriculture doing backflips for her.
Here's her again in the NAACP speech talking about the cross burning that she says occured a few months after her dad's murder.
""But anyway my brother and my sisters got on the phone -- they called other black men in the county. And it wasn't long before they had surrounded these white men. And they had to keep one young man from actually using his gun on one of them. You probably would have read about it had that happened that night. But they actually allowed those men to leave. [unclear 13:51]... get out of there."
"But I won't go into some of the other stuff that happened that night, but do know that my mother and my sister were out on the porch with a gun, and my mother said, "I see you and I know who you are." She recognized some of them. She'll tell you that she became the first black elected official in Baker County just 11 years later, and she is still serving you all. She's chair of the board of education and she's been serving almost 34 years."
Today one MSM source said there were "40 white men" at the cross burning-it would have taken quite a few "black men in the county" to provide the size of a group that could surround the 40 KKK and force them to leave.
Anyway, again, just like the neighbor, and the 3 witnesses to her father's killing-she indicates that she and her mother know who did this. In the speech she said her mother recognized some of the cross burners.
I think there needs to be an investigation into this. There's no statute of limitations for murder-as for the burning, if what went down was true, that's a hate crime-why not bring the men to justice, and if they are dead, go after their families for financial damages?
I'm not saying I don't believe her, but I'm not saying I automatically am, either. Not until there are further details.
If what she said is in fact true, I feel the investigation would only help give her and her family some measure of relief after all these years.
A grand jury investigated the case, and no one was charged. All of the grand jurors were white, as was typically the case before the passage of the landmark civil rights legislation of the mid-1960s.
He was killed AFTER it was signed.
Why?
In my vanity post yesterday-an article earlier this year about Sherrod’s Oral History interview with Ft. Valley State College said it happened in 1963, not 1965.
Why what?
Why is an investigation needed?
I’ve got your “cracker”
If Breitbart was smart, he’d be verifying everything she’s ever said.
If she’s telling the truth, a vile crime has gone unpunished all these years-there are civil and criminal actions that need to be taken.
If she’s lying or otherwise exaggerating about this, she needs to be held accountable.
Either way.
And yet the official records of Georgia deaths on Ancestry states March 25, 1965.
Can't imagine losing a father that way. How awful.
1965 is correct...
I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if the evidence is there.
You don’t think her father was killed? Why would she lie about that?
Why, Hosie was lynched just before the time Mary Jo Kopechne was lynched by a drunken Kennedy. No charges brought then, either.
No justice back then, was there? sarc
An argument over some cows doesn’t exactly sound like a hate crime, but maybe it was. If there was a grand jury investigation, it should be a matter of public record.
I know-in the FVSU interview she said she was a college student in 1963, in the other accounts a high school student in 1965-and the Ancestry data seems to be consistent with that.
Something just seems strange about this. Albany was a main hotbed of the civil rights movement. MLK was there big time-Albany was his most egregious failure. Read about Laurie Pritchett-a man-despite thee first name. He was I believe chief of police in Albany in the early 1960s. A very smart man, he outfoxed King several times, and not through force.
Anyway, with this Charles Sherrod, whom I’ve heard of before, and with Albany as a hotbed of civil rights history-why nothing about Hosie Miller?
I need to read up more about her past. I assumed her father’s killer had been brought to justice.
I think Grand Jury proceeding are sealed.
I’m not saying she is lying. But to answer your question, are you serious?
My vanity yesterday had two, (well not “famous” because that stuff gets swept under the carpet)egregious instances of blacks claiming racial atrocities from the 1960s-one to his brother, one to his uncle-both were found to be false. There are many documented hate crime hoaxes.
It’s like the losers that claim false stuff with the Stolen Valor-fake SEAL stuff.
I was a Marine-a good Marine-no big hero. I’m proud of what I did-no need to exaggerate or lie.
Why do some guys claim hero status, medals they didn’t earn, service they didn’t do, elite units they weren’t inetc? Yet people do.
Thanks
As I mentioned, the longtime prominent black newspaper in the area should have had something about the killing-even, maybe the main newspapers in the area
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