Posted on 07/22/2010 2:04:52 PM PDT by nasube
Yesterday afternoon, I posted a vanity about this-I had read Sherrod's transcript, and Googled her to find out the details of her father's death, which she mentioned in her NAACP speech.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2556721/posts
She, in the speech mentioned her mother was on the Baker County Ga Board of Education. Long story short, I hit on an article from March 2, 2010, inducting five women in the Southern Rural Black Womens Hall of Fame. It mentions a "hate crime" against Hosie Miller, and mentions Grace Hall Miller as one of the inductees.
Shirley Sherrod is listed as a speaker at that event-yet no mention is made that her mother is one of the five-or that she is Hosie Miller's daughter.
As far as I know, I'm the first person pretty much anywhere, since this flap began who found her father's name and was able to connect her with it. The MSM didn't until today.
Anyway, I asked yesterday if anyone could find anything about Hosie Miller-I couldn't match the few people by that name in the Social Security Death Index with the date, state, etc.
2 Freepers, I_don't_chat and DJ MacWoW came up with this in response from Ancestry.com:
According to Ancestry death records: Hosie Miller Birth about 1925 Death Date: 25 Mar 1965 County of death Dougherty Age: 39 years County of Residence: Mitchell
Now it says he lived in Mitchell County and died in Dougherty County-both are in Southwest Georgia. Here's what bugs me:
Here's an excerpt from Sherrod's NAACP speech:
It was 45 years ago today that my fathers funeral was held. I was a young girl at the age of 17 when my father was murdered by a white man in Baker County. In Baker County, the murder of black people occurred periodically, and in every case the white men who murdered them were never punished. It was no different in my fathers case. There were three witnesses to his murder, but the grand jury refused to indict the white man who murdered him.
She had mentioned she lived, as a kid in Baker County, and her family's farm was in Baker County-the MSM today said he was shot by a neighbor over a dispute about cows.
Question: why doesn't the Ancestry.com records say he lived and was killed in Baker County, as Sherrod states?
My own dad died of natural causes years ago-a far less dramatic death, but I know what county he died in.
Other MSM reports metion the KKK was involved. She didn't in her speech-you figure that would be a salient point in a speech on race.
She also mentions the three witnesses, as well as a grand jury refusing to indict the killer.
This woman is, as of today, one of the most famous women in America. She's rich, she has the media eating out of her hand, the President and Secretary of Agriculture doing backflips for her.
Here's her again in the NAACP speech talking about the cross burning that she says occured a few months after her dad's murder.
""But anyway my brother and my sisters got on the phone -- they called other black men in the county. And it wasn't long before they had surrounded these white men. And they had to keep one young man from actually using his gun on one of them. You probably would have read about it had that happened that night. But they actually allowed those men to leave. [unclear 13:51]... get out of there."
"But I won't go into some of the other stuff that happened that night, but do know that my mother and my sister were out on the porch with a gun, and my mother said, "I see you and I know who you are." She recognized some of them. She'll tell you that she became the first black elected official in Baker County just 11 years later, and she is still serving you all. She's chair of the board of education and she's been serving almost 34 years."
Today one MSM source said there were "40 white men" at the cross burning-it would have taken quite a few "black men in the county" to provide the size of a group that could surround the 40 KKK and force them to leave.
Anyway, again, just like the neighbor, and the 3 witnesses to her father's killing-she indicates that she and her mother know who did this. In the speech she said her mother recognized some of the cross burners.
I think there needs to be an investigation into this. There's no statute of limitations for murder-as for the burning, if what went down was true, that's a hate crime-why not bring the men to justice, and if they are dead, go after their families for financial damages?
I'm not saying I don't believe her, but I'm not saying I automatically am, either. Not until there are further details.
If what she said is in fact true, I feel the investigation would only help give her and her family some measure of relief after all these years.
Why?
She said she ‘believes’ it was a white farmer......
No proof...but it sure worked for CNN..
It may be that the murderer is dead and perhaps dead for some time....or it may be a Senator.
Maybe it’s like Joe Biden when he repeatedly lied about his wife being killed by a drunked driver?
She’s smart enough to know all that and if she and her family wanted to go down that road, they would - without your help.
Charles was a true civil rights leader with a peaceful philosophy. It just may be that her father was killed because of Charles Sherrod's activities.
It's just the way she said it that leads me to believe she wants to leave it the way it is.
You are mentioned Ping!
My point exactly-what came out today was “she said”, “ostensibly”, etc.
I want to know what happened from somewhat other than her.
I’ve been through Albany, Georgia and that area several times-it’s a majority black area. I looked it up-The Albany Southwest Georgian is a weekly black paper, started in 1938. I’m sure this was news the would have thought “fit for print” back in 1965-both the crime and the injustice afterward.
Or it may not be-after all, her mother is still alive. Even so, why not give the names anyway-and if there is an avenue for their kids, etc to apologize on behalf of the perps and maybe cough up some $, why not do it and give the money to help present day disadvantaged kids?
Who are you, her spokesperson?
Please don’t make me go there. Can you copy and paste it here?
Sorry, I should have pinged you.
I don’t know that she has that luxury-she brought it up—the MSM has used it as the reason for her racial animosity (like a white woman whose father was murdered by blacks would be off the hook)
Let’s hear what happened.
HuffPo makes it sound like her father was killed BEFORE the Civil Rights Act was signed. He wasn’t. It was signed July 2, 1964. Miller was killed March 25, 1965. Why are they being “murky”?
Thanks for posting that-I had already read it.
Gee whiz-the HuffPo and Morris Dees’ group-the SPLC or whatever acronym it is-no agendas there with those folks. We now know the man was a deacon and grew cucumbers-but “the exact circumstances” of the killing “are murky”
Sherrod doesn’t sound so “murky” in her account.
That would be fine if they let “their people” do the investigation. She would do the same for you, Cracker!
Perhaps her mother knew the alledged murderer, and he happens to be a democrat of some import in the county. As long as the perp remains in question he can remain a republican.
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