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Ron Paul: 13th Amendment bans income tax
Youtube ^ | June 27, 2010 | RidleyReport

Posted on 06/28/2010 7:49:04 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271

Who agrees and who disagrees with Dr. Paul? I would like to see income tax abolished (it is socialism light) but what say other Freepers? Watch the video of course.


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To: Undocumented_capitalist
Absolutely, abolish them.

Federal Prisons, why? The state and local level can take care of the undesirables.

Don't buy chinese dry wall. Don't run with scissors. Don't stick a knife in an electric outlet. Don't pee on a spark plug if the engine is running.

Man up, I am sick of people who cannot take care of themselves and their families.

What is up with the caps?

161 posted on 06/29/2010 9:24:26 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: citizenredstater9271
Did you read that before you posted it?

Private companies already BUILD the roads under contract and guidance from the federal or state governments. Then the government makes sure they are maintained and such.

You must have missed the point of privatizing the military when the founders you say you follow did the exact opposite.

What do you suggest to replace these coercive taxes? A voluntary system? Yeah, that’ll work, let people opt out of taxes but still enjoy the protections and advantages the remaining government services provide as long as they last. Nothing like something for nothing.

We form governments for a reason, we agree to pay for certain services through the government for a reason. We all pay for schools for a reason for roads for a reason, for the military for a reason.

Is the system bloated and in massive need of reform, of course, that is the basis of the Conservative position. But the solution is not wholesale elimination of almost everything

162 posted on 06/29/2010 9:28:14 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: coon2000
Man up, I am sick of people who cannot take care of themselves and their families.

Both liberals and conservatives claim the gov. needs to tell people how to run their lives in some respect. Completely uncalled for.

163 posted on 06/29/2010 9:29:39 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271
Oh you are kidding, right?

After all that you send me back to Mises?

Tell ya what, let me help you out. Take some FR time out from posting and read the posting here of us straights. When applicable read any links to broaden your knowledge base beyond Ron Paul and Mises. Come to grips with the realities of the world and responsibilities of a Conservative in the modern age.

BTW, another hint, Walter Block is a big time contributor to Lew Rockwell...

That just digs your hole deeper here...

164 posted on 06/29/2010 9:30:37 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: citizenredstater9271; coon2000
I assume you two have your own armies and personal highways and fly without the assistance of air traffic control...
165 posted on 06/29/2010 9:35:41 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: ejonesie22
I never said I'm for privatizing the military. I agree we need a military to stop jihadis from turning America into Iran. What I said is we need a different way of paying for it that doesn't involve the gov. stealing money FROM MY POCKET without my consent that if I refuse to hand them the money I worked hard for I go to jail.

What do you suggest to replace these coercive taxes? A voluntary system? Yeah, that’ll work, let people opt out of taxes but still enjoy the protections and advantages the remaining government services provide as long as they last. Nothing like something for nothing.

I didn't ask for those roads so why should I BE FORCED to pay for them? And the gov. is the one that's really getting "something for nothing" as you say. They jail us if we don't hand them our money every April 15th. Let private companies maintain the roads and set up schools. I'm sick of being taxed as are most hard-working Americans.

166 posted on 06/29/2010 9:35:41 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: ejonesie22

I have guns and friends and family. I have 4 wheel drive. I have flown without ATC. I do not need you. Don’t tread on me.


167 posted on 06/29/2010 9:40:54 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: citizenredstater9271
“I never said I'm for privatizing the military...”

But in post 159 you say:

“I’m not against privatizing the military.”

You didn't ask for those roads?

So your food, clothing and such is just dropped from heaven?You walk on the grass to work or the store? You have magic dust that lets you fly above the trees?

Like I said, take a break and study the straights...

168 posted on 06/29/2010 9:44:02 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: ejonesie22

I meant I’m against privatizing the military. Typo there.


169 posted on 06/29/2010 9:45:41 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: coon2000

A candidate running on your platform has no chance of ever getting elected.

Any candidate, no matter how good, is totally useless if is not elected to office.

To be successful, you have to be practical and also have to be popular with majority of voters. Otherwise you are totally useless with no power to pass any laws.


170 posted on 06/29/2010 9:47:15 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Only God should have the authority on how to run our lives. No man should have any sway on your God given rights.


171 posted on 06/29/2010 9:47:31 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: ejonesie22

What I’m against is the gov. making me pay for things I didn’t ask for. How much money to people in Washington have in their pockets they can pay for roads with? Why should *I* and many other hard-working Americans be the ones who primarily pay? I’m not against roads I’m just against being forced to pay for them.


172 posted on 06/29/2010 9:48:27 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271
One down, several more to go...

Have a nice walk to work tomorrow. I don't want you to uses those roads you did not want but were forced to pay for...

173 posted on 06/29/2010 9:50:30 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: citizenredstater9271
I didn't ask for those roads so why should I BE FORCED to pay for them?

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174 posted on 06/29/2010 9:50:32 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: citizenredstater9271
Why should *I* and many other hard-working Americans be the ones who primarily pay?

Because it is easier to drive to work on a road? Because eating is nice and the closest cattle is 100 miles or more away and it is easier to get when a truck brings it the grocery store? You found that your car is less likely to get stuck in asphalt than mud?

Really, please, stop while your behind...

175 posted on 06/29/2010 9:54:45 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

To hell with your candidate. I want men to agree with me and take back our rights. We have far too many laws.


176 posted on 06/29/2010 9:55:29 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: ejonesie22

For the last time, I’m NOT against roads. I’m against the gov. MAKING ME PAY for everything. I have no problem with paying private companies for services. I’m against the gov. FORCING me to pay MY money TO THE GOV.


177 posted on 06/29/2010 9:57:20 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: coon2000

The reason the gov. is allowed to run amok is because not enough candidates are willing to do what Dr. Paul does and stand up for the Constitution and the truth. All they care about is appealing to people so they can keep getting elected and keep making money off taxing.


178 posted on 06/29/2010 10:44:06 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

At this point a face palm pic would be redundant...


179 posted on 06/29/2010 10:48:52 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: death2tyrants

I figure they have a hovercraft...


180 posted on 06/29/2010 11:00:41 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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