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Report: California on 'Verge of System Failure'
MoneyNews viaNewsmax ^ | June 21, 2010 | Julie Crawshaw

Posted on 06/21/2010 1:04:03 PM PDT by Steelfish

Report: California on 'Verge of System Failure' 21 Jun 2010 By: Julie Crawshaw

Think of it as Greece on the Pacific: A place with beautiful scenery where the government spent so far beyond its means that mass layoffs, welfare reductions that leave a million children and the poor and elderly without needed services and failing infrastructure are now the norm.

California’s fiscal hole reportedly is now so large that the state would have to free 168,000 prison inmates and permanently close 240 university and community college campuses to balance its budget in the fiscal year that begins July 1.

“We are on the verge of system failure,” Jean Ross, executive director of the California Budget Project, told the Globe and Mail.

“We have to get some federal money,” Ross says. “It would be bad for the U.S. and, arguably, bad for the world to do the shock-therapy approach.”

Peter Dreier, a professor of politics at Occidental College, calls this a classic American dilemma.

“Americans expect a lot of their government,” Dreier says. “But politicians have convinced them they’re not getting what they want.”

Budget analysts say Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has no choice but to ask Washington for bailout funds, and that Washington has no choice but to agree because not bailing out the Golden State could put the entire U.S. economy at risk.

It seems that California — which at one time had the third-largest economy in the world — is like the biggest U.S. banks: Too big to fail.

Neither Democrat Jerry Brown nor Republican Meg Whitman has offered details in their campaigns to become the state’s next governor about how to close this year’s $19 billion budget deficit or handle next year’s anticipated $37 billion deficit, the Mercury News reports.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2big2save; california; democrats; economy; fail; unions
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1 posted on 06/21/2010 1:04:03 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
shocking!
2 posted on 06/21/2010 1:05:50 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Steelfish
“We have to get some federal money,” Ross says. “It would be bad for the U.S. and, arguably, bad for the world to do the shock-therapy approach.”

Don't make brash assumptions. I'd hazard to say that there a lot of normal Americans that wouldn't mind seeing a preview of what is going to happen to the rest of this country if Obama is allowed to continue. You know, sort of like being the opportunity to have a little precognition of impending doom in the attempt that we may learn from it and prevent the occurrence from spreading to other parts of the country.

3 posted on 06/21/2010 1:09:21 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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California’s fiscal hole reportedly is now so large that the state would have to free 168,000 prison inmates and permanently close 240 university and community college campuses to balance its budget in the fiscal year that begins July 1.

Sure, that would be 1 way to close the shortfall. Another would be to reduce public employee salaries and retiree benefits. You cannot expect to retire @55 and collect benefits for 30 years with your pension based on your highest salary. It didn’t work in Greece and it won’t work much longer in California.


4 posted on 06/21/2010 1:09:58 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Steelfish

A third world state with first world debt obligations and a second world government, I’m saying their doomed.


5 posted on 06/21/2010 1:10:30 PM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Steelfish

As a lifelong California resident, all I can say is LET IT FAIL...

NO BAILOUTS....

THE LEECHES IN THIS STATE MADE THEIR BED...LET THEM LIE IN IT!

And for the rest of the country...LET THIS BE A LESSON! Government can not...will NEVER be the solution to society’s problems. Nothing but insolvency awaits those who believe thus.


6 posted on 06/21/2010 1:10:30 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Steelfish
“We have to get some federal Obama money,” Ross says.


7 posted on 06/21/2010 1:12:11 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Gaffer
"You know, sort of like being the opportunity to have a little precognition of impending doom in the attempt that we may learn from it and prevent the occurrence from spreading to other parts of the country."

It's to late...we've already passed the point of no return. There's no painless/bloodless way back from here.

8 posted on 06/21/2010 1:12:34 PM PDT by blam
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“We have to get some federal money,” Ross says...

“We have to get some OTHER PEOPLES' money,” is what he means............

9 posted on 06/21/2010 1:12:39 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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“Americans expect a lot of their government,” Dreier says. “But politicians have convinced them they’re not getting what they want.”

Huh? I see government getting in the way and over controlling. All I want from the government is the basics.


10 posted on 06/21/2010 1:14:20 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Errant

This has got to be a was-dude.....


11 posted on 06/21/2010 1:14:41 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: zek157
You cannot expect to retire @55 and collect benefits for 30 years with your pension based on your highest salary. It didn’t work in Greece and it won’t work much longer in California.

Something that is not making it into the discussion here....many public employees end up being double and triple dippers....because of government union control of the legislature, many bounce around and end up qualified for multiple pensions.

And then there's the scam of workers retiring and then coming back to work (whilst retired) being paid as consultants.

This state is so messed up, nothing but a complete collapse is going to change anything. Kind of like wiping the hard drive on your computer that doesn't work so well anymore.
12 posted on 06/21/2010 1:15:00 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Steelfish

Fire the unions!


13 posted on 06/21/2010 1:15:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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Crash Baby, Crash!

As a former CA resident now in nearly-as-bad NY State, both States need to learn a hard lesson on fiscal responsibility. Sorry, but there is no other way.


14 posted on 06/21/2010 1:17:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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I have an idea.

I’ll bet that there are wealthy Texans (a.k.a. ants) that would loan the foolish grasshoppers enough money to bail them out for a year or so at reasonable interest rates. Say, 9 to 11 per cent.

They can put up state and municipal parks as collateral. They seem to be very fond of these; there are a lot of them, and many of them are sweet pieces of real estate.

If they default on the loans, then the investors get title to the parks, along with carte blanche to develop them for profit free from encumbrance by silly Kalifornia labor, environmental, etc. laws — that part would be written into the promissory note. If foreclosure becomes necessary, investors could put up condos, nuclear waste dumps, hog farms, whatever their hearts desire.

Oh, and by the way, interest and principal payments must be tendered ON TIME in US Dollars. No funny Kalifornia “IOUs” or any such nonsense.

I bet this could be made to work.


15 posted on 06/21/2010 1:17:43 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Errant

And to Ross the other 49 states say NO!


16 posted on 06/21/2010 1:18:18 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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Dear CA, your request for a taxpayer funded bailout to enable you to continue to pay bloated state salaries and pensions has been received. The answer from the American taxpayer is: DENIED!!!


17 posted on 06/21/2010 1:18:29 PM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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and that Washington has no choice but to agree because not bailing out the Golden State could put the entire U.S. economy at risk.

Owe the bank 1,000,000, they own you.
Owe them 1,000,000,000,000, you own them.

18 posted on 06/21/2010 1:18:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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Why don’t they ask Mexico for a bailout? < / sarc >


19 posted on 06/21/2010 1:20:21 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: OrangeHoof

Yeah!!! A regular Kalimexithon!!! Ask (in Spanish, of course) for as many pesos as each ‘citzen’ can stand from their earnings.......


20 posted on 06/21/2010 1:23:43 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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