Posted on 05/28/2010 2:31:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Fail indeed.
That alone speaks volumes. :)
That being said, threads like these (including the one the other day where Ron Paul voted to let gay activists openly serve in the military) hammer home the point that his dad Ron Paul is NOT a Reagan Republican and "true conservative"
I don't expect Rand Paul to be a clone of his dad in his voting record, but he'll be close enough that the tea parties activists whooping it up over "true conservative" Rand Paul beating a "Clintonite" in the primary will have buyer's remorse after a few months of Rand Paul in the Senate. He simply wasn't the "most conservative" candidate in the primary when it came to social issues and security issues.
As for how "unfair" it is to point this fact out now that the primary's over, I have little doubt that about 80% of the Paulites would be sitting home and sulking rather than "getting behind" Trey Grayson if he was the nominee, so my response is Cry Me a River. The fact so many Grayson supporters are willing to support Paul in November shows they are far more tolerant than the Paulites demanding unity. Unity is a one way street with the RON PAUL "R EVOL TION" , it's always THEIR way or the highway. Anyone who agrees with them only 99% of the time and deviates from Paul's views on a single bill is pond scum, but if Ron Paul agrees with us 75% of the time then "Reagan's 11th commandment" means we can't criticize what he does the other 25% of the time.
Perhaps if the Paul crowd stopped the smears about Mitch McConnell being RINO slime and Trey Greyson being a Democrat sleeper cell (ever notice they NEVER bash anyone else who was a Democrat in college, including Ronald Reagan himself?), then people would take their demands to "supporting fellow Republicans" seriously.
You'll have to fill me in on RuPaul--I'm not into him or whatever uncle you fancy.
I'm more for the Ron Paul, with his Uncle Sam/US Constitution approach.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Jeff Flake, Ron Paul -- I'm a big fan of MOST Congressmen or Senators who get a 90% or better rating from the National Taxpayers Union; it's just that Ron Paul is always amongst that honored few, year after year. I'm hoping that Rand Paul will be as well.
Paul's conservative ratings on national security issues and social issues is less impressive. Organizations that rate politicians on ALL conservative policies give Paul about a 75% rating. Far better than a Democrat, but nowhere near as conservative as Tom Coburn -- or even Mitch McConnell for that matter.
American Conservative Union gives him a lifetime 83%, 90-91% in 2008 and 2009. Not perfect, but hardly a Liberal.
But, yes, Paul rates higher on the NTU rankings than in the Broad Conservative indexes, I'll agree with you on that. But that "single issue" that the NTU pushes is not unimportant -- that "single issue" is Fiscal Conservatism, lower taxes and lower spending and more streamlined regulation, across a whole bevy of Federal Departments and Programs!
That "single issue" is basically one of the three pillars of Reaganite Conservatism, and I believe that Ron Paul's high ratings for Fiscal Conservatism should be respected alongside DeMint's and Coburn's -- even while recognizing his 5-15% less-Conservative rankings on other issues. And acknowledging my disagreement with his positions on some of those issues; not all, but some.
All of which, I would say, certainly gives the lie to your claim that "Anyone who agrees with them only 99% of the time and deviates from Paul's views on a single bill is pond scum, but if Ron Paul agrees with us 75% of the time then "Reagan's 11th commandment" means we can't criticize what he does the other 25% of the time."
Such extreme hyperbole on your part against Paul supporters, arguably quite false at that, doesn't really do much to promote Conservative unity IMHO.
Ridiculous. The truth is, now that Rand Paul has won the Republican nomination by nearly 2-to-1 -- it is those who refuse to support Rand Paul who are disloyal Republicans and anti-Conservative frauds, not the almost-60% of Kentucky Republicans who voted for him.
Paul-haters are just "useful idiots" for the Democratic Party, since all they're doing is helping the Democrats retain their majority in the Senate. Emphasis on the "idiots" -- morons, all of them, every single one.
Normally I gravitate towards the most fiscally conservative candidate. But for this race I made an exception.
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