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Ron Paul "has some reservations" about Arizona SB 1070
examiner.com/ ^ | May 27 2010 | Martin Hill

Posted on 05/28/2010 2:31:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: Impy

Fail indeed.


61 posted on 05/29/2010 5:11:18 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: SoCalPol
He sure does love to go on the Alex Jones show.

That alone speaks volumes. :)

62 posted on 05/29/2010 11:39:32 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Impy; Christian_Capitalist
There's no doubt Rand Paul is 10X better than RAT Jack Conway and every freeper should support him in the general election.

That being said, threads like these (including the one the other day where Ron Paul voted to let gay activists openly serve in the military) hammer home the point that his dad Ron Paul is NOT a Reagan Republican and "true conservative"

I don't expect Rand Paul to be a clone of his dad in his voting record, but he'll be close enough that the tea parties activists whooping it up over "true conservative" Rand Paul beating a "Clintonite" in the primary will have buyer's remorse after a few months of Rand Paul in the Senate. He simply wasn't the "most conservative" candidate in the primary when it came to social issues and security issues.

As for how "unfair" it is to point this fact out now that the primary's over, I have little doubt that about 80% of the Paulites would be sitting home and sulking rather than "getting behind" Trey Grayson if he was the nominee, so my response is Cry Me a River. The fact so many Grayson supporters are willing to support Paul in November shows they are far more tolerant than the Paulites demanding unity. Unity is a one way street with the RON PAUL "R EVOL TION" , it's always THEIR way or the highway. Anyone who agrees with them only 99% of the time and deviates from Paul's views on a single bill is pond scum, but if Ron Paul agrees with us 75% of the time then "Reagan's 11th commandment" means we can't criticize what he does the other 25% of the time.

Perhaps if the Paul crowd stopped the smears about Mitch McConnell being RINO slime and Trey Greyson being a Democrat sleeper cell (ever notice they NEVER bash anyone else who was a Democrat in college, including Ronald Reagan himself?), then people would take their demands to "supporting fellow Republicans" seriously.

63 posted on 05/29/2010 3:32:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SoCalPol; rabscuttle385
Paul voted to abolish “don’t ask, don’t tell” with the other Liberals

Hey Rabs, yoo-hoo, over here!

Got any comments about your hero Ron Paul and his decision to vote down "Don't ask don't tell"?
64 posted on 05/29/2010 4:37:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: newfreep
RuPaul will sound intelligent and then, BAM! out comes his crazy uncle routine.

You'll have to fill me in on RuPaul--I'm not into him or whatever uncle you fancy.

I'm more for the Ron Paul, with his Uncle Sam/US Constitution approach.

65 posted on 05/30/2010 9:55:11 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: BillyBoy
I have little doubt that about 80% of the Paulites would be sitting home and sulking rather than "getting behind" Trey Grayson if he was the nominee.... Unity is a one way street with the RON PAUL "R EVOL TION" , it's always THEIR way or the highway. Anyone who agrees with them only 99% of the time and deviates from Paul's views on a single bill is pond scum, but if Ron Paul agrees with us 75% of the time then "Reagan's 11th commandment" means we can't criticize what he does the other 25% of the time.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Jeff Flake, Ron Paul -- I'm a big fan of MOST Congressmen or Senators who get a 90% or better rating from the National Taxpayers Union; it's just that Ron Paul is always amongst that honored few, year after year. I'm hoping that Rand Paul will be as well.

66 posted on 05/31/2010 12:01:14 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then you don't understand the fundamentals of conservatism. Of course Ron Paul gets excellent ratings from the National Taxpayers Union. They're a single issue organization dedicated to lower taxes. Paul is rock solid on that issue. But conservativism means more than just "low taxes". You might want to read up on the movement sometime and educate yourself. It's called conservatism, not Lowtaxism.

Paul's conservative ratings on national security issues and social issues is less impressive. Organizations that rate politicians on ALL conservative policies give Paul about a 75% rating. Far better than a Democrat, but nowhere near as conservative as Tom Coburn -- or even Mitch McConnell for that matter.

67 posted on 05/31/2010 12:48:58 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
Organizations that rate politicians on ALL conservative policies give Paul about a 75% rating.

American Conservative Union gives him a lifetime 83%, 90-91% in 2008 and 2009. Not perfect, but hardly a Liberal.

But, yes, Paul rates higher on the NTU rankings than in the Broad Conservative indexes, I'll agree with you on that. But that "single issue" that the NTU pushes is not unimportant -- that "single issue" is Fiscal Conservatism, lower taxes and lower spending and more streamlined regulation, across a whole bevy of Federal Departments and Programs!

That "single issue" is basically one of the three pillars of Reaganite Conservatism, and I believe that Ron Paul's high ratings for Fiscal Conservatism should be respected alongside DeMint's and Coburn's -- even while recognizing his 5-15% less-Conservative rankings on other issues. And acknowledging my disagreement with his positions on some of those issues; not all, but some.

68 posted on 05/31/2010 3:22:02 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: BillyBoy

All of which, I would say, certainly gives the lie to your claim that "Anyone who agrees with them only 99% of the time and deviates from Paul's views on a single bill is pond scum, but if Ron Paul agrees with us 75% of the time then "Reagan's 11th commandment" means we can't criticize what he does the other 25% of the time."

Such extreme hyperbole on your part against Paul supporters, arguably quite false at that, doesn't really do much to promote Conservative unity IMHO.

69 posted on 05/31/2010 4:39:16 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Because in tearing down the GOP Senate candidate for Kentucky, that's all you're doing.

The problem is that now there is no Republican candidate in Kentucky.
70 posted on 05/31/2010 4:48:43 AM PDT by John D
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To: John D
The problem is that now there is no Republican candidate in Kentucky.

Ridiculous. The truth is, now that Rand Paul has won the Republican nomination by nearly 2-to-1 -- it is those who refuse to support Rand Paul who are disloyal Republicans and anti-Conservative frauds, not the almost-60% of Kentucky Republicans who voted for him.

Paul-haters are just "useful idiots" for the Democratic Party, since all they're doing is helping the Democrats retain their majority in the Senate. Emphasis on the "idiots" -- morons, all of them, every single one.

71 posted on 05/31/2010 12:39:39 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: BillyBoy

Normally I gravitate towards the most fiscally conservative candidate. But for this race I made an exception.


72 posted on 05/31/2010 3:44:22 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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