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A $95,000 question: why are whites five times richer than blacks in the US?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 5/17/10 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 05/19/2010 10:47:13 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010

A huge wealth gap has opened up between black and white people in the US over the past quarter of a century – a difference sufficient to put two children through university – because of racial discrimination and economic policies that favour the affluent.

A typical white family is now five times richer than its African-American counterpart of the same class, according to a report released today by Brandeis University in Massachusetts.

White families typically have assets worth $100,000 (£69,000), up from $22,000 in the mid-1980s. African-American families' assets stand at just $5,000, up from around $2,000.

A quarter of black families have no assets at all. The study monitored more than 2,000 families since 1984.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: africanamerican; bs; democrats; earnedpoverity; economy; handupnothandout; income; liberalfascism; liberals; obotpropaganda; poverty; race; racecard; racism; racist; wealth; welfare; whiteysfault
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

ultraliberal Brandeis University study featured in a UK Guardian newspaper article = BS x BS = BS squared.


101 posted on 05/19/2010 11:21:12 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Persevero

Then there is the possibility that the authors of the Bell Curve are right. Even middle-class blacks do not in general match other groups in academic achievement. Maybe the same genes that make blacks the fastest runners —and arguably also the slowest—work to reduce the intellectual ability
of black students. But it is not just a black-white thing. Appalachian whites do no betters on standardized tests than blacks.


102 posted on 05/19/2010 11:22:46 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

“A huge wealth gap has opened up between black and white people in the US over the past quarter of a century – a difference sufficient to put two children through university – because of racial discrimination and economic policies that favour the affluent”

In spite of decades of racial profiling against whites in admissions, employment and promotion and trillions of dollars in transfer payments (read: wealth distribution) here’s the same old tired excuses. Nothing about cultureal differences, nothing about values, nothing about work ethic, nothing about flawed behavior patterns. Nothing about bad political choices. It’s always an excuse.


103 posted on 05/19/2010 11:23:07 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

A: Dad.


104 posted on 05/19/2010 11:23:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer calls opponents "Teabaggers". So we can call Kagan "Carpet Muncher." Right?)
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To: RobbyS
It does seem to be endemic in certain sociological circles. This article does not state that there are more poor whites than any other race in this country. There are more caucasian ,numerical, examples of every income bracket. Appalachia has, like you've stated been an extreme example of the lesser end income-wise. It generally boils down to mindset, regardless of race or creed.
105 posted on 05/19/2010 11:25:31 AM PDT by allmost
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To: stuartcr
It would be a serious study if they controlled for Education. The most obvious rebuttal is look at the success of Asian who are also racial minorities. If this country was "all about race", Asians in the USA would be similarly afflicted. They aren't.

If they could show that a black with an equivalent social/education background made 5 times less , or a white with the comparable lack of education made 5 times more, then their social/economic equivalent in the other race, they might have a point.

But they cannot because no such facts exist. Not making dumb choices early in life, higher education, competency at basic social skills and hard work still count far more then race, ethnicity or social economic background in the USA when it comes to success.

106 posted on 05/19/2010 11:25:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
If he compared blacks to North-Asians it would even be greater. I wonder if this reporter ever thought about that. I wonder if he can think at all.
107 posted on 05/19/2010 11:27:48 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: RobbyS; TheMom
Friends of ours taught advanced math and science classes at Spencer, WV, and were dismayed to see their best students decline to go to college

I know a high school physics teacher in Charleston, WV who actually thought one could "catch gay" from casual contact with a homosexual. Maybe this sort of thing is part of the problem too.

108 posted on 05/19/2010 11:28:12 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The article doesn’t even mention the high incidence of single-parent families in the AA community as one of the possible factors.

Yep. Aside from the obvious advantage of two incomes, or at least the presence of one parent in the home while another works, saving on 'child care', a stable marriage is conducive to the accumulation of assets, real and otherwise. It makes it possible to buy instead of rent, to maintain the property better, to take advantage of sales, etc., all of which translate into getting more for the dollar spent, and free up money to be invested or accumulated.

The interdependence of a decent relationship establishes standards which cause people to achieve more.

Most of the problems of the black community appear to have cultural roots, and that culture has changed significantly since the start of the War on Poverty. People who were itching for a chance to compete in the workplace and academia with their counterparts of other races often lost drive, and I place the blame on the Socialist ("New Left") inroads made in the black community during what they might call the 'Civil Rights Era' of the 1960s. The whole concept of 'being owed' really gained visible traction then.

Prior to that, even under Jim Crow, there were somewhat parallel cultures, businesses, and even universities, and achievement was stressed by many black parents (and still is by those who did not buy into the Socialist's meme.).

109 posted on 05/19/2010 11:30:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Persevero

Delay self gratification. - Don’t buy a new car until you can pay in cash, etc.


110 posted on 05/19/2010 11:32:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RobbyS

As far as Appalachia, part of the problem is that even if they do get an education, there’s nowhere to USE that education unless they move far from home. Kind of a vicious circle.


111 posted on 05/19/2010 11:32:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: agere_contra

Appreciate it.

As much as it irks me to fund do-nothings, the fact remains that someone on welfare may “skate” today, but the long-term effect is that they and their children are becoming more and more locked into poverty.

You can’t get “promoted” within the welfare system. You can’t get a new “job” within the welfare system. You take the money — which is big money for doing nothing, but a pittance in terms of being able to *accumulate wealth* — and that is it.


112 posted on 05/19/2010 11:33:13 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Get a paper route, Billy - Len Britton, running v. Leaky Leahy http://tinyurl.com/3a5ac8o)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

IT'S THE CULTURE, STUPID


113 posted on 05/19/2010 11:34:28 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: RobbyS

I do wonder if blacks have a genetic predisposition to flock to Communism.


114 posted on 05/19/2010 11:34:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Basically though, whites are richer because blacks don’t have as much money.


115 posted on 05/19/2010 11:35:31 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: SmokingJoe

I’ve lived in the UK all my life. This 5 to 1 ratio is simply not the case. It wouldn’t be a problem if it was, but it is just not true. Now: 2 to 1, I could believe.

And the reason is illuminating: the toxic loser-culture that pervades the ‘African-American’ experience is much less of a factor in Britain: our Jamaican, Sierra-Leonian and other African-extraction citizens do not have such colossal chips on their shoulders. Or perhaps they don’t form 10% of the population and therefore don’t form such a powerful entitlement group - I don’t know.

We have other problems: and our entitlement underclass has its own demographic profile. We call it ‘Scotland’. But this self-selecting angry black underclass that refuses opportunity - that’s a uniquely American pathology.

Also: the mere existence of a political “Black Caucus” in the US political system - that’s a dynamic that just isn’t found in Britain.

Hope this was helpful. I’m not saying we’re better in the UK, I’m just saying we have different issues.


116 posted on 05/19/2010 11:35:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Good post.....


117 posted on 05/19/2010 11:38:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
White families typically have assets worth $100,000

Huh?? Is this a mean? You're never supposed to use means in income or wealth statistics. Medians are more accurate.

As the old saying goes, there are 3 kinds of lies:
Lies
Damn Lies
and Statistics.
118 posted on 05/19/2010 11:39:25 AM PDT by Greg123456
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To: RockinRight
I’d bet that if you compare white two-parent families with black two-parent familes, the numbers would be much more similar.

Agreed. All generalization aside, there are black families who strive for excellence, who achieve and expect the same of their children, and who would be greatly demeaned by ever having to accept welfare.

119 posted on 05/19/2010 11:41:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: stuartcr
Blacks are also about 1/10 the population of whites in the US therefore the white sample is much larger.

It is an apples to oranges comparison. A much larger population of whites is going to consist of a much larger number of both richer and poorer people then the average black.

120 posted on 05/19/2010 11:41:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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