Laura Bush says Kagan nomination is 'great'

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[NormsRevenge]

WASHINGTON

[Starboard]

“I hope never to see another Bush in public office.”

I’ll never understand why the Bush’s let B.J. Clinton into their family circle. He is simply using them in an attempt to restore his sordid image. Then again, maybe they’re not really all that different from him.

[Optimist]

thanks for the confirmation

[wardaddy]

we had a man for president we all admired a good deal at some point who was married to a fembot?

is that how this played out?

i remember sensing this and mentioning it and being lambasted here..

man...those Bushes...please be gone

[wardaddy]

She could have said she supported candidate based on their views not gender.

it’s easy

[investigateworld]

Her words and actions of late are perhaps her true feelings?

Why wasn't she a bit more candid before ... perhaps a little more forthcoming?

Of Course she didn't dare ... would limited opportunities for hubby (and her).

There is a word for such people... check your dictionary.

Thanks.

[Kaslin]

There is a lot coming together now, and some long unanswered questions being addressed.

I never wanted to believe that George W. Bush dismissed the Constitution as a G.D. piece of paper but I now believe he might have.

How many "republican leaders" are there who do not hold our Constitution as nearly sacred?

How many "republican leaders" see the Constitution as just a scrap of paper?

How many "republican leaders" see the Constitution as an impediment to their goals?

It is past time to find out!

Did you ever bother to find out if it was true? I did and could not find anything. As a matter of fact it was made up by that lunatic Doug Thompson from Capitol Hill Blue, who was well known for making up sources that did not exist.

Please note that he had to take to take the smear back

FUBAR
Article removed from our database
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 10, 2005, 06:02

(Updated May 16, 2006)

The article that previously appeared under this URL has been removed from our database because a followup investigation revealed the sources quoted in the article did not, as they claimed, attend a White House meeting between President George W. Bush where we reported he called the Constitution a "god damned pieced of paper."

Although we believe President Bush has a history of flagrant disregard for the protections and liberties outlined in the Constitution, we cannot confirm that he made the statement and retract the article.

Our apologies to our readers. Our policies regarding the use of unnamed sources were changed in 2006 and the article would not have appeared on this web site under those new policies.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_article_7779.shtml>Doug Thomson's apology

From FactCheck.org

December 12, 2007

Q:

Did President Bush call the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper?" Is it true that President Bush called the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper?" He has never denied it, and it appears that there were several witnesses.

A:

Extremely unlikely. The Web site that reported those words has a history of quoting phony sources and retracting bogus stories. The report that Bush "screamed" those words at Republican congressional leaders in November 2005 is unsubstantiated, to put it charitably. We judge that the odds that the report is accurate hover near zero. It comes from Capitol Hill Blue, a Web site that has a history of relying on phony sources, retracting stories and apologizing to its readers. The Quote The report was posted on Dec. 5, 2005. According to author, Doug Thompson, unnamed Republican leaders complained to Bush during a White House meeting about "onerous" portions of the USA Patriot Act, prompting the following: Capitol Hill Blue: “I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.” “Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.” “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!” The evidence There's no record of Bush ever using these words in public and no other news organization has reported him using them privately. Thompson based his report on three sources whom he didn't name. He gave the date of the quote as "last month," which would put it sometime in November 2005. Thompson told us he once removed the story from his Web site when others raised doubts and no other news organization came up with a similar story. But he said he later reinstated it and currently believes it to be true. "I wrote the story and I stand by it," Thompson said in a telephone interview. Thompson told us he based the story on e-mail messages from three persons he knows, all of whom claim to have been present at a White House meeting and to have heard Bush make the statement. He said he finds their account credible: "Sometimes I just have to go with my gut, and my gut tells me he did say this." The unreliable gut Thompson's "gut" has proven to be a unreliable guide in the past, however. He has admitted quoting trusted sources in the past who later turned out to be frauds -- twice. In 2003 Thompson confessed that he had been "conned big time" by a source who claimed to be a former CIA contract consultant named Terrance J. Wilkinson. Thompson quoted this "source" as claiming to be present at two White House meetings in which Bush ignored intelligence officials' doubts about reports of Iraq seeking uranium. Thompson said he had been relying on the same man for two decades and had "no doubt" about his credibility, only to discover that "someone has been running a con on me for 20 some years and I fell for it like a little old lady in a pigeon drop scheme." He erased a number of stories from the site that had been based on information from "Wilkinson" and deleted anonymous quotes given to him by "Wilkinson" from other stories. Thompson said then: "It will be a long time (and perhaps never) before I trust someone else who comes forward and offers inside information. The next one who does had better be prepared to produce a birth certificate, a driver's license and his grandmother's maiden name." That was two years before the "piece of paper" quote attributed to three unnamed sources. But, far from demanding solid proof, Thompson continued to quote at least one more phony source until 2006, when a blogger started to question the existence of "George Harleigh." Thompson had for years quoted this supposed former Nixon and Bush appointee. But when no records of such a man could be found, Thompson admitted he had never even met him: Doug Thompson (July 26, 2006): We would get quotes via email on current topics. He claimed to be a retired political science professor from Southern Illinois University and an appointee of both the Nixon and Bush administration. I was told he had been checked out. But he wasn't who he said he was and we used his phony name in stories. This time Thompson says he revised or deleted 83 stories that had relied on information from "Harleigh" or quoted him. In his defense, Thompson says: "[The] 83 articles that we revised or removed represent less than 1 percent of the total production of this Web site over the past 13 years. While errors must never be condoned, a 99+ percent of accuracy is a percentage I can live with. " But we also note that Thompson described his own reporting habits this way: Doug Thompson (July 26, 2006): I started taking more chances with stories, jumping on ones with sketchy sources, always trying to outdo the last "big" story. I had people willing to help me and they would send me info that I used often on their word alone. . . . I wrote stories based on emails from sources I never met. I would meet self-proclaimed "important people" in out-of-the way bars, taking what they told me at face value. Washington is a breeding ground for phonies and wannabes. Too often I printed what they told me because I was so full of myself that I was sure it was true and did not require further verification. By Thompson's own account, these were the habits still in place when he reported the "piece of paper" quote in 2005. We also note that Thompson expresses extreme personal hostility toward Bush, calling him in one recent article a "madman," a "despot," and "a man without honor, a leader without conscience and a human being without a shred of decency or humanity." Thompson is a former Republican congressional aide and political consultant. He was manager of the National Association of Realtors political action committee for several years, ending in 1992. But his experience as a journalist prior to launching Capitol Hill Blue was limited to working as a local reporter at the Roanoke Times and a columnist at The Telegraph (Alton, Ill.), ending in 1981. He currently lives and works from his home near the town of Floyd in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, nearly 290 miles away from the White House.

[Optimist]

She could have said she supported candidate based on their views not gender.

So are we/you saying we actually think LB is/was a great policy/political wonk?

She (as well as Barbara and other a-political people who are thrust into political spotlight) are chosen for these interview shows just so they can give politically incorrect (policy wise) answers in favor of what you might expect from an average person who doesn't think in "politics" terms.

Remember LB is not a politician or even a lawyer as are her predecessor and successor. Although "in" a political environment she is not in "her" environment.

[VideoDoctor]

Grow up, act like adults, and deal with it

 

Wolfy, we do NOT need someone to tell us what to think or how to behave.
We're all big enough to do that for ourselves

Intellect personified by oneself, to teach others, is the HEIGHT of SELF-IMPORTANCE.

Simply put:

"He who knows does not speak. He who speaks does not know" - Lao Tzu

[little jeremiah]

“He who knows does not speak. He who speaks does not know”

And someone said that!

So only mutes are wise?

[mickie]

Chris Wallace really did set her up with that question "what do you think of a woman"......and she fell right into the trap.

My question is why did Chris do this? I have always had my doublts about how conservative he is.

[Wolfstar]

Her words and actions of late are perhaps her true feelings? Why wasn't she a bit more candid before ... perhaps a little more forthcoming? Of Course she didn't dare ... would limited opportunities for hubby (and her). There is a word for such people...

Words for "such people?" Hmmmm, let me see...wife, loyal, loving, supportive, self-sacrificing, helpmate, companion.

Do you seriously think that in the 220+ years since our first president, none of their wives EVER had differences of opinion with their husbands on political and other matters? Do you seriously think that they largely kept their opinions private while their husbands were in office due to some nefarious reason(s)?

Like I said above. The majority of the 6 billion of us on the planet think for ourselves. We each see the world differently and we form individual opinions. Grow up, become an adult and deal with it.

[Kaslin]

I meant this for Outlaw Woman, but I wanted to ping the dosers on my list so they could see that she was trying to tell me not to post the Sanity Island thread. I did not want to offend you and the other dosers. If I did then please accept my apologies

[Kaslin]

My apologies. Normally I don’t

[Wolfstar]

Wolfy, we do NOT need someone to tell us what to think or how to behave.

Exactly...nor does Laura Bush need the hysterical peanut gallery out here telling HER what to think or how to behave. Disagree with her, sure, but be an adult about it. Only children (and blind ideologues) can't grasp that having a disagreement does not make the other person bad.

[trisham]

Oy vey.

[Kaslin]

Very well said and thank you

BTTP

[Wolfstar]

you’re welcome :)

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I'm glad to hear it, now, tell me why G.W. didn't secure the border? Why isn't he pointing out that Kagan is a flaming marxist? There are a lot of "whys"!

Bill Clinton certainly doesn't feel constrained from spouting out his crap, where is G.W. Bush as our elder statesman? We hear Laura striking a blow at the heart of republican principles, where is G.W. speaking in defense of republican principles?

Laura Bush isn't sacred, where is the "republican leadership" on this display of her treachery?

When all those illegals get rushed into citizenship and start voting the republican party may as well just close up shop, America as a set of principles will be dead. Convince me that G.W. Bush couldn't see it coming, convince me that it isn't acceptable to him.

[Kaslin]

Very well said. Thank you

[WashingtonSource]

Just think, all those years Bush was in the White House, Laura was whispering sweet socialism in his ear. Good grief! This is such a disappointment.