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A question for birthers: why Mombassa?
Vanity | Me

Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity

The origin of modern myths and legends is a side interest of mine, the birther myths among them.

Now I understand why Obama being born in Kenya made it into your belief system, despite it being physically impluasible (requiring around 5 days and five flights, most on propeller planes) and financially impossible (it would have cost about a year of her parents' combined salaries) for Stanley Ann & Obama Sr. to travel there for her to give birth. After all, Obama's Father was from Kenya, so if you are going to make up a myth about Obama being born abroad, what better place than Kenya?

Implausibilty, and even impossiblilty doesn't deter the making of myths if there is a strong emotional reason to believe them, as in this case.

What I don't understand is, of all possible places in Kenya, why make Mombassa the birthplace in your myth? If you look at the map of Kenya, it's on the other end of the country from Obama Sr.'s village, 762 miles away, which would make it a minimum 2 day train ride. Probably longer, since Kenyan trains were very fast in 1961.

I suppose you could argue that there were no hospitals in Obama's village, so they had to travel to a major city. But Nairobi was closer, and more modern.

So why Mombassa? Not only is it completely implausible; I don't see the emotional appeal. Why Mombasssa rather than his father's village? Or why Mombassa rather than Nairobi?

Help me out here, birthers. Why do you reserve this special place for Mombassa in your belief system?


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To: curiosity

All your responses were flat out wrong and display an amazing amount of ignorance about the issues (no name calling) at hand. Since, you are reluctant to research or even understand your ignorance pertaining to the facts, I am simple withdrawing my argument.

Next time, if you want to argue, please do so with a little intelligence, facts, and knowledge of your argument. A spirited debate is only fun if both sides understand the their position.


261 posted on 05/12/2010 12:41:26 PM PDT by BushCountry ( I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparsion to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: mojitojoe

>>> Wow... October 2004... you been lurking trolling here for a while. There, fixed it.

lol... thanks... now all we need is a few kitties.


262 posted on 05/12/2010 12:42:37 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Uncle Chip

The same reason that you’re covering for him. Neither of you can seem to find your conscience or tell the truth when money is put in front of you.


Wow! Did you think that deep and penetrating reply up all by yourself or did your mommy help you?


263 posted on 05/12/2010 12:43:14 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: curiosity; Vendome

“But that’s really beside the point. I see most birthers wouldn’t be convinced no matter what Obama did. If he released a long form today, it woudn’t take 5 minutes for internet hacks with phony Ph.D.’s (I’m looking at you, Polland) to declare them forgeries.

That’s why I think I’m shifting my focus and treating birthers more as an anthropological phenomenon.”


Most of us here are not primarily interested in his B.C., because the sperm he came from came out of the village 760 miles from Mombasa!!!

We would also like to see the OTHER sealed records, that was on display for Bush/sKERRY, WHY are they still sealed. Do you get a kind of perverse satisfaction by posting such thread, or are you just simple a masochist???

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=7951


264 posted on 05/12/2010 12:43:52 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: jamese777
And finally, Obama’s original birth documents CAN be subpoenaed without Obama’s permission if anybody truly, really wants to see them.

Duh how do you propose to subpoena it? Enlighten me with your vast knowledge of the legal system. Another straw man argument you continue to throw like crap against the wall, hoping something might stick. It sticks alright, to you.

265 posted on 05/12/2010 12:44:25 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: sweetiepiezer
Hiya sweetiepiezer!

I've been meaning to write you a note but just haven't gotten around to it, I'm a bad boy!

266 posted on 05/12/2010 12:44:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

A not so subtle troll that ties to act subtle and play dumb.


267 posted on 05/12/2010 12:44:34 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: curiosity

all I have heard is that his own wife on two occasions now has said that Kenya is his homeland.

she knows him the best so I will go off what she says


268 posted on 05/12/2010 12:45:11 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: MHGinTN

no one has any business in his kintergarten records. He released a COLB that is legit. A COLB is a birth certificate. now move on. The state of hawaii confirmed he was born there. the governor even named the hospital. there were 2 birth announcements in the Hawaii news in August 1961.

you all are more stubborn than the grassy knoll club.

no matter what he produces it will not be good enough. That is a fact.


269 posted on 05/12/2010 12:45:43 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: jamese777

You are correct, there is absolutely no reason to take your word for anything since you contradict your own posts within your own posts. But you keep workin’ it, kneepadder, keep worshipping for the father of lies.


270 posted on 05/12/2010 12:46:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: curiosity

Also, I would’ve loved for someone to have laid out an intelligent, thoughtful presentation of facts with links and references. My mind could be changed in an instant.


271 posted on 05/12/2010 12:46:40 PM PDT by BushCountry ( I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparsion to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: usmcobra
I'm not particularly interested in the travel angle, although it's fairly obvious that the Kenyan government would have been paying his travel expenses, and quite possibly the travel expenses of any spouse, as you point out.

I am somewhat intrigued by the potential legal issues of citizenship posed by Obama, Sr. being a de facto paid representative of the Kenyan government. His education expenses were paid by that government, and he likely received a stipend.

The Constitution precludes children born of such representatives ever being considered natural born, point blank, no ifs, ands or buts.

272 posted on 05/12/2010 12:48:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: a fool in paradise; wxgesr

You don’t need to go to all the way to Libya!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&NR=1


273 posted on 05/12/2010 12:49:42 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: ChurtleDawg

“He released a COLB that is legit.” Prove it, liar. You scum from obamanoid cesspool keep floating lies mischaracterizations thinking you’re pursuading folks that your little affirmative action mangod is legitimate. But your ineptitudes expose your fecklessness on every thread you infect. In grand Alinsky style, you make a false statement as if it is axiomatic, then you twist any refutation of your false statement to suit the faux axiom you present. The exhibits displayed on the Internet are not official Hawaiian documents, there have been at least three different versions, all claimed to be legitimate, and not one of these exhibits has ever been confirmed by the State of Hawaii. But you just keep on trying to flaot those lies. Revealing, very revealing.


274 posted on 05/12/2010 12:50:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: El Sordo

Sure. If they could provide documentation, under oath, I would walk.

They didn’t and they won’t.


275 posted on 05/12/2010 12:50:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ChurtleDawg
Hawaii has never said Obama's COLB that is published on the Internet is genuine. They have refused every time. The thing is phoney as after-Birther sincerity. The dingbats at non-"FactCheck" showed a phoney-baloney document with pressed on glossy numbers to fake the certificate number. LoL!



276 posted on 05/12/2010 12:50:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe

You think that is an act.


277 posted on 05/12/2010 12:51:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MHGinTN

sounds like you are getting way too mad over something way too stupid.


278 posted on 05/12/2010 12:55:16 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChurtleDawg; MHGinTN

And you need a whacking with a CLUE by fore.

Will the governor’s word suffice in court?

The hospital did not exist at the time of Barry o’s birth.

What is so hard about putting up the real McCoy when you already have one in hand?

Why submit a document that looks foreign to anyone who has ever obtained a passport or government clearance.


279 posted on 05/12/2010 12:56:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: jamese777

So are you trying to tell us no one can get a copy of their own long form Hawaii birth certificate or are you just using subtrefuge to deceive? Come on go and spit it out, take a stand!


280 posted on 05/12/2010 12:57:51 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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