Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface?

World Net Daily ^ | April 20, 2010 | Bob Unruh

[Smokeyblue]

The defense attorney for an officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander in chief has hinted that the president's proof of eligibility could come up during the course of the government's prosecution of his client.

"In the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), just as you would expect, criminal defendants have the process of the court, for subpoenas and depositions under the rules that are prescribed," attorney Paul Jensen said during an interview today on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy.

Jensen was on the program with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who posted a YouTube video inviting his own court-martial because he believes military orders under an ineligible president are illegal, and then posted a letter telling Obama that it's up to him to provide the proof.

"I'm not going to say what we are going to do other than we are going to do what you would want us to do," Jensen said.

He specifically avoided broadcasting any specific defense strategy for the case that is developing against Lakin – confirming that the officer was told in writing on Monday that he now has been "flagged" by the military and charges are expected to be filed soon.

[Elle Bee]

has anyone looked at the birth records for Obama's many siblings?

Just curious to see if there is or is not a pattern and practice

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[BP2]

> Heads exploding at DU over the BC issue. ROFLMAO!

BTW, that first posting referring to the "full faith and credit clause" has many work-arounds, particularly if it's believed Obama's COLB is a type of a Delayed Birth Certificate as many of us have considered.

In Lt Col Lakin's case, the legal citation BELOW may work to get Lakin's attorney's hands on the original birth certificate, and circumvent the Hawaiian Legislature's law which says the Certification is considered prima facie in any Court Proceeding:

Here's just ONE citition:

"... the court in Casares-Moreno observed that even if the legislature had intended ex parte judicial orders to be conclusive, '[m]aking such an ex parte appearance conclusively establish the facts surrounding a person's birth or death might well infringe on and conclusively determine the rights of any third person having contractual or other relations with, and regulatory duties concerning, such person. This would appear to deny such third person due process.' " (United States v. Casares-Moreno, supra, 122 F.Supp. at p. 379.) (See also Ex Parte Lee Fong Fook (N.D.Cal 1948) 74 F.Supp. 68, 70

[True Republican Patriot]

Your posts are too hilarious and Jim’s time is too valuable to waste! Keep on goofing....:-) Many Others seem to share my sentiments...

[Impy]

Well no state he is likely to win in 2012 is likely to keep him of the ballot are they? He's not gonna win AZ.

Oh and to Answer your question. I don't think it's ever been done, although I believe it's possible: has a major party candidate ever run for POTUS without appearing on all the states ballots?

Yes. There are cases since 1860 and 1864. Sort of. The parties appeared but with different candidates.

In 1912 Taft was the GOP nominee. But in South Dakota TR had the GOP ballot line and Taft did not appear. In Cali TR had the GOP and Progressive Lines, Taft only got write in votes. TR conversely didn't appear on the Oklahoma ballot.

In 1948 Strom Thrumond had the official democrat line in Alabama. Harry Truman wasn't on the Alabama ballot. Thrumond also had the dem line in Mississippi but Truman appeared as a "National Democrat".

In 1964 also in Alabama LBJ did not appear on the ballot. Only Goldwater and a slate of "unpledged" democrat electors.

[ProvenWays]

Analogy: say it turned out that a recently hired CEO of a major corporation lied on his resume and didn't meet basic requirements for the job. But, when the board of directors discover the violation, they decide to keep him in office. The CEO would still be the boss.

It isn't illegal for the board of directors to keep him on. I would question the board's judgment but it would not be illegal! However, the President of the United States must be a natural born citizen by law. To keep a usurper on as POTUS would be illegal. It violates the highest law of the land. So, your analogy doesn't hold water.

[butterdezillion]

Where in the Constitution does it say that if Congress certifies a president it no longer matters if they don’t meet the Constitutional requirements?

If Congress certifies an unconstitutional president it just means that they were either negligent or criminal - neither of which nullifies the requirements of the Constitution, which still stand.

[butterdezillion]

Who would be the board of directors in that analogy?

And the analogy also falls apart in that a company runs its own affairs, but we have an entire judicial system set up to protect the US Constitution - or at least we’re supposed to have.

And the analogy would work better if the CEO was also caught forging documents and committing perjury in order to get the job. At that point law enforcement should enter the picture and it shouldn’t even matter what the company decides; the guy should sit in jail.

[Impy]

Of course I realize if any state won’t allow Obama’s name on the ballot the rats could likley run a slate of unpledged electors (technically the electors are whom you vote for) and if they won they would be free to vote for Obama.

[surfer]

Of course they will try to pull some military rules here to try him without proper process but of course if you are a terrorist you get paraded into a puppet court in NYC with full process and access to the media.

This country is really beginning to suck.

[danamco]

I Google attorney Paul Jensen and here also showed up other “people” with a debased mindset, WOW. You need a warm shower after reading!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x274138

[danamco]

Someone please explain again why the (2) newspaper birth announcements do not lend credibility to Obama’s American birth? I am at a loss to understand how these could be fradulent, planted or anticipatory of baby Obama’s future presidency.

At that time, I think, anybody could submit a birth announcement to any newspaper in the country regardless where the newborn was born. However, that does not make him a NBC, especially by his father's sperm/blood mixture which made him a Kenyan/British/E.U. citizen plus mostly also a fourth citizenship from the Indonesian adoption!!!

Any further questions???

[opentalk]

I think he is one of perhaps a thousand or so agents born, bred, and trained to work their ways into positions of power to damage and ultimately cause the downfall of the United States.

There are no coincidences with this group. The fact that both Obama's Mother and Geithner's father worked for the Ford Foundation seems to play into this somehow.

this is from Who Funds the Radical Left In America?

--Very few Americans realize there exists a large network of far left philanthropists and foundations in America dedicated to destroying the American way of life, our Christian-based culture and our free enterprise system.

--They seek to remove America from its constitutional foundations and move it toward a European-style socialism. Much of this effort is coordinated by a little known group called the Tides Foundation and its related group, the Tides Center.

--Ford Foundation. This foundation consistently supports causes Henry Ford would never have supported and has become one of the largest donors to Tides, giving them millions of dollars since 1997.

Ford foundation has funded Anti-Israel activists, also funded La raza--During the past two decades, the Ford Foundation has concentrated on programs for the expansion of Hispanic political mobilization, litigation to "clarify the rights" of immigrants, and research on immigration and reform legislation.

[6ppc]

They will wind up discharging him making the case moot.

[mo]

these clowns will abrogate due process before they produce any “documentation”...

[GOPsterinMA]

Thank you for the information FRiends; it has happened more often than one would think.

Any way to get rid of Soetoro works for me, not being on a ballot is one of them.

[danamco]

This doesn't make sense. Bozo was still elected and sworn in as president. Even assuming that Bozo is ineligible to serve, that doesn't invalidate the law. His actions as president are still authoritative.

Gary, is that the kind of rhetoric that you are teaching your students???

[danamco]

And who supplied all the faked Social Security Cards???

[danamco]

"“military orders under an ineligible president are illegal”

The order to report to Fort Campbell is not an illegal order.

Quite two contradictory sentences!!!

Or, were you boozing tooooo much during the weekend???

[danamco]

Wow, and that is what you are teaching, Gary???

Help us Lord!!!

[verity]

"Quite two contradictory sentences!!!"

They are only contradictory to an ignoramus.

Nevertheless, it was not my intention to burden you with facts.