Posted on 04/20/2010 11:26:05 AM PDT by FredDardick
It looks like somebody is going to have to update the Waco Siege page on Wikipedia. Apparently the whitewashed history that former President Bill Clinton would like us to believe regarding the 1993 federal assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, is missing important details regarding his own personal involvement.
In response to Bill Clintons highly publicized linking of the Tea Party movement to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing in an op-ed piece for the New York Times, former Clinton adviser Dick Morris disclosed on Monday that it was Clinton himself, and not Attorney General Janet Reno, as Americans have been led to believe for the past 17 years, who called the shots during the 1993 botched invasion that led to the death of seventy-six people.
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
Got a ride in a P51 that had a back seat. What a ride. I do however (when I can afford it) fly Air Combat USA ... that’s the other plane on my profile page ... it’s fully aerobatic, +9 -3gs ....
We are really all on the same side. We just have many viewpoints and sometimes memory lapses. :)
+9 gs? You black out at 5 right? LOL.
You must BE a character.
I have said repeatedly that this was not the government's finest hour, and that the Clinton administration may have violated the letter of Posse Comitatus, and certainly violated the spirit of the Act. If the after-action investigation had been better, and more aggressive, prosecution under PC may have been successful. But, things would have been MUCH worse if it were not for some active-duty Army officers (who are members of the government) who pushed back against Clinton Justice Department, rightfully so.
Also, the most deceit came from the ATF securing training from themselves from JTF-06. They plainly lied to secure that training and made it appear that they were involved in drug-interdiction, which they clearly weren't. Such a element to the investigation/raid would have allowed the training that the ATF agents received.
Finally, the fact of the matter is despite the horrific flaws of Clinton's administration in it's pursuit of this case, the DNA evidence was fully conclusive - David Koresh was a pedophile who fathered a number of children born to underage mothers. He is no hero of the right, nor is he a Christian. The defense of Koresh and his group - who fully enabled his predilections - is distasteful. In short, the investigation, and the execution of the search warrant was highly unprofessional, but history has proven that many of the allegations and suspicions of state and federal officials were merited.
Thank you for your apology.
Moi? A character ... well, lessee, raised by my dad (Marine pilot in 'Nam), two brothers (Iraq vets)an uncle ('Nam vet) and my mom (ex-Air Force) I'd say I was ....and as another Freeper here, pretty cheeky too.
“And not one word of questioning on his role in this during his confirmation hearing.”
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That was a dereliction of duty- a common occurrence these days.
In the MSM.
I don't see any in the Warrant.
{{{crickets chirping}}} to another post. I guess all those arms listed in the warrant evaporated in the fire that wasn’t hot enough to destroy DNA.
It sounds like you are saying the 'ends' justify the 'means'.
I appreciate your acceptance of my apology. I did confuse two aspects of the story. I used to have a huge bookmark of links on Waco and OKC but never got them transferred from an old computer. I now find that a huge percentage of those old websites have been removed from the web. They were not a bunch of flaky websites either. That, and lots of other things being scrubbed from the net, are a disturbing occurrence in and of itself IMO.
I also appreciate your recognition (limited as it is) that the gov acted "poorly." I would call it "illegally" and the cover up supported by Clinton, Reno and certain members of Congress was also illegal, or at least highly immoral, IMO.
Thank you, I appreciate that. My memory and bookmarks aren’t what they used to be. The last two months of gov corruption is a lot to remember all by itself anyway. lol
Not in the warrant. Those were stories circulated by the MSM due to an incident where there had been a person who lived at the compound, who did drugs.
He was kicked out of the compound, because he did drugs. The MSM just neglected to mention those details.
Hard to tell after the bulldozer goes by.
I wonder what would happen if someone got the current land owners permission and went poking around with a metal detector and a shovel? I have a sneaking suspicion of how that would play out.
>Nothing is more irritating when sanctimony is based on factual inaccuracy.<
Sometimes your own words come back and hit you in the face...
Apparently the ends justify the means, in Fed law enforcement or debate.
TANKS for the pics,,,
One part I can’t swallow is that it was just an ANFO type
bomb because of the blast area/pattern,,,
This sure seems like at least part of it was PETN/C-4 type
of BOOOM stuff :
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C4 detonation velocity is 8,040 m/s (26,400 ft/s), or 28,900 km/h (18,000 mph).
C4 is often used in demolition charges such as the US M183 and M112. The Demolition charge M183 is used primarily in breaching obstacles or demolition of large structures where large charges are required (satchel charge). The M183 charge assembly consists of 16 M112 block demolition charges, four priming assemblies, and M85 carrying case. Each Priming assembly consists of a five-foot length of detonating cord assembled with two detonating cord clips and capped at each end with a booster. The components of the assembly are issued in the carrying case. The demolition charge M112 is a rectangular block of Composition C-4 approximately 2 inches (51 mm) by 1.5 inches (38 mm) and 11 inches (280 mm) long, weighing 1.25 lb (0.57 kg). When the charge is detonated, the explosive is converted into compressed gas. The gas exerts pressure in the form of a shock wave, which demolishes the target by cutting, breaching, or cratering.
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geutH6Rs5LBgAByR9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZDFoYXVmBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0g1NDlfMTQ3/SIG=120igrmq8/EXP=1271896186/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_(explosive)
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I will defer to the EOD guys on FR,,,
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IMHO that bomb was built by an EOD type guy,,,
Where is “Andy The German??!!,,,
http://eyeonhate.com/mcveigh/mcveigh5.html
Why did that Basturd bugout so fast after these MURDERS??!!
Was he the bomb maker??!!,,,
I think the POS is hidden well in RUSSIA!!!
Some day we’ll get you Andy,,,or GOD WILL!!!...
Sigh! I am in love.LOL
Here is the main page that the previous link came from.
They didn't just cross the line they obliterated it. Lots of people involved to including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the SecDef and the Sec of the Army.
You would be shocked by some of the things those in power have done.
For instance: Google 'Franklin Coverup'.
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