Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the right to remain silent because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nations highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.
LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.
Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakins Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.
The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.
Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.
Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely prima facie--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.
Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com
“Obama can’t show his BC, but little kids show theirs to play little league baseball. “
Obama LOVES birthers! If you guys didn’t exist, he’d PAY to recruit some as fakers!
You make everyone who opposes him look crazy...
He sure doesn’t need to invent sycophants and lackeys with the likes of you around.
You didn’t answer the question: Why do little kids have to show their BC’s (paper copies, internet images aren’t allowed) but POTUS doesn’t have to????
Do little kids have control of the nuclear arsenal that we don’t know about?
On second thought: little kids would probably handle our nuclear arsenal better than the current inept occupant of the oval office.
I don’t believe I’ve given you any cause for that insult.
If you know Nixon’s birthplace was part of a school district, surely you know where the presidential library and birthplace foundation for Obama, has identified as Obama’s birthplace.
Again, free and open society, this information should be at your fingertips, as a staunch defender of the truth, as illustrated by your posts.
You make everyone who opposes him look crazy...
Yeah sure he does. You keep on swallowing that Obot line...the "Birthers" are going to save his administration!!!
Yeah, we'll see it come to fruition when Obama loses the Rat Congress this November then we will see who is still laughing.
I guess this little piece of paper sort of blows the fact that we possibly could have a usurper in office since this debate went dead?
Dates would be perfect for Grandma Dunham getting this info into the newspaper as well. But it doesn’t help the fact that he could not be considered natural born since he was not born on this soil. Also could blow that he even was a citizen since his mother could not transfer her citizenship onto her baby.
Didn’t it have something to do with her needing to be living in the States 5 years after the age of 14? That would mean she needed to be 19. So, we have an illegal alien as a President - how nice!
and if it doesn't?
I've seen the list of records demanded.
I haven't made a fool of myself, but you birthers are doing a good job of making conservatives look stupid. Ah ... the ol' Indiana case. LOL. Tell you what, Having done it to other Obama-supporters here on FR many times ... You tell me what you believe is specifically-compelling about Judge Dreyer’s Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana opinion, and I will soundly defeat it for all else reading this thread. Your own answer is in Judge Dreyer’s citation of Minor v. Happersett (1874). Did you catch it? The answer is there for you in black and white ... |
“The Richard Nixon birthplace home changed hands a number of times after the Nixons moved out in 1922. Frank Nixon, the president’s father, sold parts of the property between 1922 and 1925, when the Yorba Linda School District bought five and one-half acres of the land to build a school. In 1948, the school district purchased the remaining land, including the birthplace, and installed the school’s caretaker in the home. Nixon formed the private nonprofit Richard Nixon Library Foundation for the purpose of building his presidential library in 1969, after he became president. Work on the library did not begin until after he left office, but fundraising continued. In 1978, a group of businessmen purchased the birthplace on behalf of the Foundation. The City of Yorba Linda deeded the whole nine and one-half-acre site over to the Nixon Library Foundation ten years later. In anticipation of the Nixon Library’s opening in 1990, the home was carefully restored with many of its original furnishings, including the bedstead in which President Nixon was born. The private Nixon Library was transferred to the Federal Government’s National Archives and Records Administration on July 11, 2007. The home remains under the Foundation’s administration and is open to visitors.”
So you see, Nixon’s birthplace was purchased by businessmen for a future memorial in 1978 - 4 years AFTER Nixon left office. It wasn’t transferred to the National Archives until 2007, well after Nixon was dead.
I have no idea what Obama will do, but I’m sure money is being raised.
Please do a bit of research on your own before asking questions, and then posting a second time demanding an answer. I have better things to do than stare at FreeRepublic - even after 11,000+ posts - all day, waiting to do research for someone who hasn’t done their own.
“You tell me what you believe is specifically-compelling about Judge Dreyers Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana opinion, and I will soundly defeat it for all else reading this thread.”
Let’s see - unlike your opinion, it was reviewed and upheld by the Indiana Supreme Court. And unlike your opinion of what should happen, the US Supreme Court, offered a case with the challenges you propose...said no thanks.
What is compelling to me is that you birthers have never won a court case, and you are at odds with all 50 states and every member of the US Congress. But boy, y’all can sure sound tough on the Internet...you just cannot back it up in ANY court of law!
done - thanks for the link.
we CAN do something besides moan and groan and bother our congress critters..we can give money for the legal defense of a Patriot!
No, they didn't. They answered the question, not intentionally but factually. If you stop reading at the quote, you assume there's a complete answer to the proposition, but there isn't, which I showed with a very specific citation.
Notice - alien children in America, whose father planned to become a citizen, were to be naturalized. The alien minors were children who had immigrated, not children who had been born here.
That's not what it says. You're making an assumption that isn't supported by the statements. In the 1790 Act it says, "any alien, being a free white person, might be admitted as a citizen of the United States, and that the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under twenty-one years of age at the time of such naturalization, should also be considered citizens of the United States." As long as the father is naturalized, his children can be considered citizens of the United States. Only children of citizens born domestically or abroad are considered natural born at this time. And if you want to be more specific, the real requirement for citizenship of any child is that the father has to be a citizen first. It's the same in each aspect of the naturalization law.
This is followed by the 1804 act which is more generous, "any alien who had declared his intention to become a citizen in the manner provided by law died before he was actually naturalized, his widow and children should be considered as citizens of the United States." It doesn't specify children not born in the United States in either of these acts. It's talking about all children of aliens.
Going back to the paragraph I quoted, 'native minors were already citizens by birth.' We already had Minor's NBC definition that the 'natives' were 'all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens.' So when Minor follows by saying 'native minors,' it's definitely not talking about 'native-born' children of aliens. Thus, native minors are already citizens at birth, but alien minors have to be naturalized. This means the children born in this country of aliens had to be naturalized when their fathers naturalized or when the fathers expressed an intention to naturalize but died too soon.
This clearly shows that the United States did NOT follow the English common law of children born in the country of aliens automatically being natural born subjects.
Remember, the point of the case was that a woman born in America is automatically a citizen at birth.
You seem to be forgetting. Minor was born of citizen parents.
I've searched for George W. Bush's birthplace monument but can't find it, would you please provide a link? Thank you.
I’m actually worried about LTC Lakin because it seems his whole case rests on Obama not being born in Hawaii (something that could easily be faked, frankly). I sure hope his lawyers realize that even IF he was born in Hawaii it does NOT indicate eligibility, and LTC Lakin needs to know that, too.
*I should have included that I am praying for LTC Lakin, and I support his stand — just in case anyone misinterprets my previous post.
??? Wrong thread, perhaps?
I thought you were posting here because you wanted the truth to be told.
I merely ask you to tell it.
you know plenty about Nixon, you vociferously defend Obama, but apparently you know nothing about him.
We are a free and open society. Can’t you tell us the truth about the man you defend?
Have you?
What search term did you use?
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