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The Pfleger-ization of the Catholic Church
CNSNews ^ | April 9, 2010 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 04/09/2010 6:48:50 AM PDT by raptor22

So much that you need to know about the Catholic Church’s social policy problems can be summed up in one word: Chicago. On race, abortion, guns, immigration and “community organizing,” Catholic Church officials in the Windy City have forged unholy alliances with radical left-wingers and enablers who undermine the faith—and the faithful.

Exhibit A: the Archdiocese of Chicago’s Office for Racial Justice and one of its most notorious priests, the Rev. Michael Pfleger. This week, Chicago Cardinal Francis George—who also happens to be president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops—presided over a gala ceremony honoring Pfleger with a “lifetime achievement award” for his “service in pursuit of dismantling racism, injustice and inequalities on behalf of African Americans and all people of color.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cardinalgeorge; catholic; catholicbishops; catholicchurch; catholicdemocrats; chicago; francisgeorge; malkin; michaelpfleger; pfleger; pope; racecard; racism; religiousleft; uccb; vatican; windycity
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1 posted on 04/09/2010 6:48:50 AM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22
Sorry to all you Catholics out there (some of my best friends are Catholic), but the Catholic Church was never such a wonderful institution to begin with (see the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition). Furthermore, molesting the Choir boys is a Church tradition that goes back thousands of years. There's nothing new there. It's also full of homosexuals. As for becoming a left-wing radical organization in this country, I wouldn't put it past them for a minute.

If the Catholic Church has any good to do in this world and the next, then let them do it, but we should not act shocked and dismayed at any new revelation of wrongdoing. This edifice is rotten to the core.

2 posted on 04/09/2010 7:01:15 AM PDT by Batrachian (And then Barack the First said: "Now that we have the Papacy, let us enjoy it.")
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To: raptor22
This is not the Catholic Church I was raised in. It has left me.

*Sigh*. Everything about 'fr' Pfleger is disgusting and the 'indulgent' treatment of him by Cardinal George/Chicago Archdiocese is simply incomprehensible.

However, to leap to equating this clearly dissenting behavior with the entire "Catholic Church" and justifying it as a reason to "leave" the Church strikes me as suggesting that all of the Apostles and early Christians should have just quit and left based on Judas betraying Christ.

3 posted on 04/09/2010 7:06:31 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Darn good analogy.


4 posted on 04/09/2010 7:10:44 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: raptor22

the Bishops absolutely took a dive on Obamacare...all you need to know to prove Michelle is right.


5 posted on 04/09/2010 7:21:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Batrachian

Just what is your religion and how old are you?


6 posted on 04/09/2010 7:23:39 AM PDT by duckln
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To: verity
Thank you. Not original though. The idea came from a homily by Father Roger J. Landry, Fall River MA, back in 2002 at the height of the sex abuse scandal (and helped me immensely in how I dealt personally with the contradiction of the scandal to my faith). Long, but well worth the time.

Answering Scandal With Personal Holiness

7 posted on 04/09/2010 7:23:53 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Batrachian
The Crusades were a series of military campaigns against radical Islam, which had swept through formerly Christian lands in the Mideast, up through Spain to France, and in the eastern lands of Christendom. Know what Dar al-Salaam and Dar al-Harb mean? Didn't think so. Go learn some facts, read a book.

Once you've learned a thing or two about what really motivated the Crusades, you might want to move on to the Inquisition. Try Googling "the Black Legend."

So many ill informed people slandering the great Catholic Church, so little time.

8 posted on 04/09/2010 7:26:22 AM PDT by d-back
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To: d-back
So many ill informed people slandering the great Catholic Church, so little time.

Exactly. And I believe the extreme recent increase in these media-led attacks against the Pope and the Church is primarily payback to the strong stand of the US Catholic Bishops against 0bamacare: Catholic bishops send message to faithful: We oppose ObamaCare.

9 posted on 04/09/2010 7:34:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Batrachian
shocked and dismayed at any new revelation of wrongdoing

Very few if any new revelations. It's all a rehash of 30yrs ago. And you bring up the crusades? Get reeducated and get a life.

Count all the hospitals, universities world wide created by the Catholics. Count people like Gingrich, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts. You yourself are a partial product of Catholic teachings and and mores and don't even know if.

10 posted on 04/09/2010 7:41:37 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Servant of the Cross
I have been posting stuff like this for months, maybe a year or so now. I wanted to see if other Catholics were as dismayed as I was with Church INACTION. The Kennedy death, Pelosi's denial that abortion was settled, and on and on, brought "Catholic Basher" comments to be sure, but there is still little done by the Church to "fix" anything.

I can't imaging it's up to me to fix this stuff. I've called for excommunication for the perps, but were told all the quirks and reasons that won't happen. The "legalists" will come back with some 15th century writings by somebody that say I'm wrong and the Church is doing what it's supposed to do, but each day there is a new outrage that isn't being addressed. I've pointed to the splits in the Church and am told there is none. I have made the statement that the "Phleger" types are now the majority and am told, "Not in my Parish!"

I have come to the conclusion that Catholics are asleep, content with the "knowledge" that Hell will not breech some gate somewhere. Well if Hell hasn't entered the Church, I can't imagine Hell anymore. Putting band aids on gaping wounds with entrails hanging out isn't going to work much longer, I'm afraid.

The facts are, Obama got a good majority of the Catholic vote. Catholics are marching for and having abortions. Many, if not most are for homosexual marriage. Crimes are committed in the Church, and there are routine cover ups. A Catholic in San Francisco is somehow a different bird than one in Kansas or in Venezuela. I doubt if we could get general agreement with someone 500 miles away, let alone 3000 miles away. Is location a reason to read things in the Scripture that are different than Scriptures in another town? Why is Boston morals different than Texas morals?

That was a catchy retort that we should all leave because Judas betrayed Christ, but what has been done to "fix" Phleger?, Pelosi? Biden? Any of the Kennedy's? Crissy Mathews? Any homosexual priest? ( defrocking a priest AFTER being arrested and sentenced isn't the same as the Church acting BEFORE they are arrested)

There are so many issues that are just laying there festering, I can't list them all here. I don't want my money going to Colleges that support abortion or homosexual behavior. The Church could just make a small statement by refusing to allow Obama to speak on OUR campuses.

Maybe you think I'm hypersensitive, but this is all stuff happening in just the last year or so. We are completely impotent if the Church can't deal with a rouge priest like Phleger. It's past time for the Church to act on Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, et al. The "split" is staring us in the face and it will come if these "crimes" against the Church aren't addressed. It's not going to fade away, IMHO.

11 posted on 04/09/2010 7:47:52 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Batrachian
All those whose denominations are without sin , cast the first stone. All those who don't belong to a denomination, trumpet your natural perfections, and start your stone throwing.

Also, the Catholic Church led to the earthly Christianization of Europe and beyond (Protties whose Churches broke off from the “mother” that settled in North America, for example). Crusades, see centuries of Islamic aggression before the mobility into former Christan territories. Hint, the Byzantine and the Holy Roman Empire managed to get along for a short period of time in order to defeat Islamic aggression. Unfortunately they butted heads in Constantinople and the “Islams” took advantage of the division between the two Christian Empires.

My opinion, like every bureaucracy, not a “perfect” organization controlled by men, but perfect under Christ. A serious purging is needed, but to say the Roman Catholic Church has a monopoly on molestation, sin, etc..., within is only fooling oneself.

There are bad Bishops, Cardinals, Pastors, Monsignors, Priest etc... but the percentage is minute. The cover-ups were localized within the autonomous day to day operations of particular Diocese under Bishops preventing scandal, but those idiotic Bishops were solely acting independently.

Let the Church sort it out, as well as all the other seemingly earthly Churches troubled with interior imperfections.

12 posted on 04/09/2010 8:20:30 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt p oliticians.)
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To: chuckles
Chuckles, I've been singing this song for a long time. But, one thing I won't do is to confuse the Church itself with some of the evil individuals that have infiltrated it.

There are still pockets of the Catholic faith that stand true to the intentions of Christ and St. Peter....but we don't hear about them anywhere because it's 1) not newsworthy and 2) at cross purposes with those that are consciously attempting to bring the Church down.

I have been consistently disgusted with the inaction, from the Vatican on down. Words are not actions! Excommunication is! It needs to be OK’ed by the Big Guy in Rome to start “culling the herds”!

Militant

13 posted on 04/09/2010 8:49:40 AM PDT by militant2 (I may not agree with everything you say, but......hell, I don't agree with anything you say!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

This Pfleger sounds like a giant headache.

I checked a few days ago and there are 400,000 plus priests in the RCC worldwide. Obviously the Vatican can’t pay attention to every single one. But surely Pfleger must be in the “100 worst” list.


14 posted on 04/09/2010 9:28:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Servant of the Cross
Don’t forget Judas wasn’t left in a position of responsibility, Jesus exposed him and gave him the “boot”.

“Incomprehensible”? Hardly. It’s a well established pattern.

15 posted on 04/09/2010 9:53:56 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Good job.


16 posted on 04/09/2010 9:57:20 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Batrachian

Saying some of you best friend are Catholic means absolutely nothing. Some of my immediate family members are “Catholic”, but not in practice.

You clearly know nothing about the Crusades which began as a righteous defense of the Holy Land, which became co-opted by mercenary groups (like the Templars), who ran afoul of the Pope and ended up taking matters into their own hands.
There was also more than one Crusade, but only one Church-sanctioned instance.

As for the Inquisition, this has been debunked over and over. Firstly, the target of the Inquisition was a very powerful, growing sect of Albigensians that taught that Christ had both the Father and the Devil in him. That God was both Good and Evil. ‘nuff said. They were demonically directed and the spiritual well-being of the Spanish flock was in grave danger. Secondly, the so-called mass executions were wildly, if not laughably overstated. And the executions were not carried out by the Church, but the state. Compared to the ridiculous assertions that have grown over time, the actual number of executions was a mere handful.


17 posted on 04/09/2010 10:00:06 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: count-your-change
Don’t forget Judas wasn’t left in a position of responsibility, Jesus exposed him and gave him the “boot”.

When did Jesus give Judas the boot? I must be missing that page, because, according to the Gospels, Judas walked out of the Last Supper by his own choice. In fact, if anyone got the boot, it was Peter. But there's Peter choosing to repent of his sins and being given the role of shepherding the flock. And then there's Judas despairing of his sin and making his own exit from the world. If Judas repented and did not hang himself, He would have been forgiven in the Upper Room and given a great reward (read: Prodigal Son).

18 posted on 04/09/2010 10:04:38 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: raptor22

Michelle really jumped the shark on this one. I understand the sentiments - the frustration and disappointment. But for her to say “the Church has left me”, indicates she doesn’t really understand what the Church is in theological terms.

Her remarks, unfortunately, sound typical of someone who is either nominally Catholic, or a former Catholic who hasn’t told anyone she’s a former Catholic yet.

The Catholic Church is the ark. You get on it or you don’t. If you get on it, you can’t complain that there are some smelly animals on board with you, while the deluge is destroying everything outside of it. Changes need to be made. Maybe some species need to be separated from others. But the right answer is never, ever “leave the ark”.


19 posted on 04/09/2010 10:09:38 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: raptor22
Michelle is right, we got socialist RED Ted Kennedy life long ‘death care’. And I saw what a ‘saint’ his church made him out to be, then there is the RED idolatrous Nanny the ‘state’ Pelosi, that as Speaker of the peoples house rode that lying beast Stupak into making US a socialist nation of a perverse generation.

IF the glove fits then it is what it is.... just wait until the red religious dress gets put on the ILLEGAL invasion as grace.

20 posted on 04/09/2010 10:12:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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