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1 posted on 04/09/2010 6:48:50 AM PDT by raptor22
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Sorry to all you Catholics out there (some of my best friends are Catholic), but the Catholic Church was never such a wonderful institution to begin with (see the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition). Furthermore, molesting the Choir boys is a Church tradition that goes back thousands of years. There's nothing new there. It's also full of homosexuals. As for becoming a left-wing radical organization in this country, I wouldn't put it past them for a minute.

If the Catholic Church has any good to do in this world and the next, then let them do it, but we should not act shocked and dismayed at any new revelation of wrongdoing. This edifice is rotten to the core.

2 posted on 04/09/2010 7:01:15 AM PDT by Batrachian (And then Barack the First said: "Now that we have the Papacy, let us enjoy it.")
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This is not the Catholic Church I was raised in. It has left me.

*Sigh*. Everything about 'fr' Pfleger is disgusting and the 'indulgent' treatment of him by Cardinal George/Chicago Archdiocese is simply incomprehensible.

However, to leap to equating this clearly dissenting behavior with the entire "Catholic Church" and justifying it as a reason to "leave" the Church strikes me as suggesting that all of the Apostles and early Christians should have just quit and left based on Judas betraying Christ.

3 posted on 04/09/2010 7:06:31 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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the Bishops absolutely took a dive on Obamacare...all you need to know to prove Michelle is right.


5 posted on 04/09/2010 7:21:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Michelle really jumped the shark on this one. I understand the sentiments - the frustration and disappointment. But for her to say “the Church has left me”, indicates she doesn’t really understand what the Church is in theological terms.

Her remarks, unfortunately, sound typical of someone who is either nominally Catholic, or a former Catholic who hasn’t told anyone she’s a former Catholic yet.

The Catholic Church is the ark. You get on it or you don’t. If you get on it, you can’t complain that there are some smelly animals on board with you, while the deluge is destroying everything outside of it. Changes need to be made. Maybe some species need to be separated from others. But the right answer is never, ever “leave the ark”.


19 posted on 04/09/2010 10:09:38 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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Michelle is right, we got socialist RED Ted Kennedy life long ‘death care’. And I saw what a ‘saint’ his church made him out to be, then there is the RED idolatrous Nanny the ‘state’ Pelosi, that as Speaker of the peoples house rode that lying beast Stupak into making US a socialist nation of a perverse generation.

IF the glove fits then it is what it is.... just wait until the red religious dress gets put on the ILLEGAL invasion as grace.

20 posted on 04/09/2010 10:12:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Love Michelle and understand her frustration but disagree with the broad brush. Some in the trenches are still fighting the good fight.


24 posted on 04/09/2010 10:32:16 AM PDT by Shark24
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32 posted on 04/09/2010 1:05:04 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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Why single out Pfleger? Robert Drinan, priest and congressman, was an outspoken advocate/supporter of abortion. Yet he went on to be a professor at Georgetown for many years without so much as a slap on the wrist.

Who helped found the Gay/Lesbian Task Force? A Roman Catholic priest. Did he suffer for his advocacy? No.

Paul Shanley openly advocated pedophilia, and was termed “a priest in good standing” even after molesting young boys.

Pfleger? Why would a cardinal chastise him?

40 posted on 04/09/2010 4:40:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Fr. Michael Pfleger is one of the fruits of Vatican II.

At Vatican II the Catholic Church opted to phenomenologically reconfigure itself by emphasizing social justice rather than otherworldly salvation.

The document Gaudium et Spes said that the members of the Catholic Church must work to promote social justice, economic equity, political freedom and international peace.

No one should be surprised that Vatican II attracted men like Pfleger to the seminary, and that the Church ordained them.

46 posted on 04/09/2010 5:26:44 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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