*Sigh*. Everything about 'fr' Pfleger is disgusting and the 'indulgent' treatment of him by Cardinal George/Chicago Archdiocese is simply incomprehensible.
However, to leap to equating this clearly dissenting behavior with the entire "Catholic Church" and justifying it as a reason to "leave" the Church strikes me as suggesting that all of the Apostles and early Christians should have just quit and left based on Judas betraying Christ.
Darn good analogy.
I can't imaging it's up to me to fix this stuff. I've called for excommunication for the perps, but were told all the quirks and reasons that won't happen. The "legalists" will come back with some 15th century writings by somebody that say I'm wrong and the Church is doing what it's supposed to do, but each day there is a new outrage that isn't being addressed. I've pointed to the splits in the Church and am told there is none. I have made the statement that the "Phleger" types are now the majority and am told, "Not in my Parish!"
I have come to the conclusion that Catholics are asleep, content with the "knowledge" that Hell will not breech some gate somewhere. Well if Hell hasn't entered the Church, I can't imagine Hell anymore. Putting band aids on gaping wounds with entrails hanging out isn't going to work much longer, I'm afraid.
The facts are, Obama got a good majority of the Catholic vote. Catholics are marching for and having abortions. Many, if not most are for homosexual marriage. Crimes are committed in the Church, and there are routine cover ups. A Catholic in San Francisco is somehow a different bird than one in Kansas or in Venezuela. I doubt if we could get general agreement with someone 500 miles away, let alone 3000 miles away. Is location a reason to read things in the Scripture that are different than Scriptures in another town? Why is Boston morals different than Texas morals?
That was a catchy retort that we should all leave because Judas betrayed Christ, but what has been done to "fix" Phleger?, Pelosi? Biden? Any of the Kennedy's? Crissy Mathews? Any homosexual priest? ( defrocking a priest AFTER being arrested and sentenced isn't the same as the Church acting BEFORE they are arrested)
There are so many issues that are just laying there festering, I can't list them all here. I don't want my money going to Colleges that support abortion or homosexual behavior. The Church could just make a small statement by refusing to allow Obama to speak on OUR campuses.
Maybe you think I'm hypersensitive, but this is all stuff happening in just the last year or so. We are completely impotent if the Church can't deal with a rouge priest like Phleger. It's past time for the Church to act on Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, et al. The "split" is staring us in the face and it will come if these "crimes" against the Church aren't addressed. It's not going to fade away, IMHO.
This Pfleger sounds like a giant headache.
I checked a few days ago and there are 400,000 plus priests in the RCC worldwide. Obviously the Vatican can’t pay attention to every single one. But surely Pfleger must be in the “100 worst” list.
“Incomprehensible”? Hardly. It’s a well established pattern.
Good job.
I find it is “incomprehensible” ONLY to Roman Catholics who have had their head in the sand over just how leftward Roman Catholic leaders and intellectuals have become.
“However, to leap to equating this clearly dissenting behavior with the entire “Catholic Church” and justifying it as a reason to “leave” the Church strikes me as suggesting that all of the Apostles and early Christians should have just quit and left based on Judas betraying Christ.”
There's a big difference in the situation that makes your analogy fail; in my opinion. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops together with people like Rev Pfleger, unlike Judas in his day, represent a majority, not a minority viewpoint in the Roman Catholic Church, among it's leaders and among it's intellectuals.
The only conservatives left among Roman Catholics are among the parishoners themselves.