Breaking: Militia group (Hutaree) charged with "seditious conspiracy" by FBI

Fox News ^ | Mar 29, 2010 9:25 am | Foxnews (Live broadcast)

[BP2]

No link yet, only from live broadcast:

In a press release just handed to Fox by the FBI, the six Michigan residents, two from Ohio, one from Indiana are charged with “seditious conspiracy.”

Reportedly, Hutaree is accused of attempted use of weapons of mass destruction. Charges range from August 2008 to today.

The militia group Hutaree are said to have conspired to oppose by force the authority of the US Government.

The members viewed local, state and federal law enforcement as "the brotherhood," also known as their enemy, and have been preparing, the FBI says, to engage them in armed conflict.

According to one plan released by the FBI, the group was to kill a law enforcement officer, then during the funeral precession, hit again with IEDs to kill more LEOs.

[jackmercer]

See post 294 above. I wasn’t aware of this law before today but apparently, demonstrating the use of anti-personnel explosives while carrying any firearm is a federal crime on two counts, one charge for demonstrating the use of WMD and one for possessing firearms in the process. If this is the case, that youtube video is pretty damning.

[Eagles6]

Yeah, the law sounds pretty brad.

[Voter62vb]

Excellent, excellent point.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Reading those definitions only reinforces my concerns.

This administration could apply them to almost expression of anger directed towards them.

[VOA]

bump

[xzins]

ChooseYe, back during the Waco incident, I was among those freepers who said, “they sound like whack jobs in waco.”

I was wrong, because America’s buying the government characterization allowed the government to move against them. The results were tragic. Just because I agreed they were nuts WITHOUT also saying that the government had no business attacking their compound with women and children inside.

These people might be whack jobs, but that doesn’t mean they should be rounded up in secretive operations and held for months with the flimsiest of evidence against them.

As mentioned, no one can point to even one injury or one bit of damaged caused by this group.

Innocent until proven guilty and set them Free on bond until trial would be my position right now.

[Persevero]

I’m not sure conspiracy would quite qualify as a “thought crime.”

I can see the point, in that the crime had not actually been committed.

But I don’t think it’s legal to plan, coordinate, and recruit for a murder or a mass murder. I don’t think it should be, either.

[little jeremiah]

Handsome is as handsome does!

[musicman]

"TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2384 § 2384. Seditious conspiracy"

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

[AliVeritas]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2482148/posts

[LomanBill]

>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiUtGgxyibc

Interesting how, after burning the U.N. flag (applause), instead of hoisting the U.S.A’s stars and stripes - the suuper geniuses chose to fly the flag of their local militia warlord.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Couldn’t find their homepage.

Got a page not found on their MySpace page.

Wonder if they really exist.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I spoke too soon Hutaree.

[thethirddegree]

First rule of militia, don’t talk about militia.

Seems to me that a militia group with a website earns a Darwin award.

[zeugma]

However, if they were targeting the police and there is proof of such, they belong in jail. Isn’t it sad that we now have to be suspicious of our own FBI because Obama and Holder are muslim appeasers and sympathizers.

Some of us have been suspicious of the FBI for a lot longer than Zero has been in office.

[manc]

first they marched through protesters in DC and nothing happened so they made up stories.
They then said that threats against Dems were made but ignored the threats to the GOP.
They then said the shooting which was hardly covered at Cantors office was an accident and not directed at him on purpose.
Obama then leaves the country to avoid going to church for Palm Sunday.
They then arrest these guys on B/S charges while muslims in upstate NY have a compound where they shoot auto weapons and no one is allowed in .

They still are trying to make the right wing out as violent and a threat while the left are the ones attacking and ruining this country

[manc]

but the black panthers have their charges dropped when there is even video evidence

[Conscience of a Conservative]

According to the grand jury at least, these guys did commit a crime (and, based on the grand jury indictment, the arresting officers had probable cause to arrest). Conspiracy is a crime.

[P-Marlowe]

Demonstrating the use of tripwire triggered explosives while carrying rifles in the same video and scenes. That alone will get them a conviction on counts three and four of the posted indictment.

I've seen that demonstrated a million times in Hollywood movies. Have they arrested Bruce Willis or Sylvester Stallone?

Now they did burn the UN Flag. I'm sure that will get them all life without parole.

[El Gato]

That they were planning this or that they have been charged with this?

Charged with planning it, it's call conspiracy. They likely were just BSing and the mole turned them in.

Conspiracy is what they charge you with for talking about something. Sometimes the judge will insist those charged actually do something. Like buying blakc powder and/or plumbing supplies.