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Utah governor signs bills to seize federal land
ap ^ | March 28, 2010

Posted on 03/28/2010 7:56:28 PM PDT by george76

Two measures OKd by Gov. Gary R. Herbert would allow use of eminent domain to take valuable sites. A long court fight is likely.

Supporters hope the bills, which the Republican governor signed Saturday, will trigger a flood of similar legislation throughout the West and, eventually, a U.S. Supreme Court battle that it hopes to win -- against long odds.

More than 60% of Utah is owned by the U.S. government, and policy makers complain that federal ownership hinders their ability to generate tax revenue and adequately fund public schools...

Initially, the state would target three areas, including the Kaiparowits plateau in Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, which is home to large coal reserves...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; anthracite; coal; eminent; eminentdomain; energy; government; kelo; land; landrights; naturalresources; statesovereignity; statesrights; waste
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1 posted on 03/28/2010 7:56:28 PM PDT by george76
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That’s where the clean coal that Bill Clinton put off limits so Freeport MacMoran of New Orleans could profit from their Indonesian Coal mines. YES PEOPLE, we are buying coal from Indonesia instead of UTAH to fuel COGEN plants because Bill Clinton was bought and paid for.

Is it a surprise?


2 posted on 03/28/2010 8:00:10 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: george76
More than 60% of Utah is owned by the U.S. government, and policy makers complain that federal ownership hinders their ability to generate tax revenue and adequately fund public schools...

Mine coal...for the children! :-)
3 posted on 03/28/2010 8:00:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: george76
Go Utah. States need to push back or risk becoming mere janitorial services for the federal Leviathan.
4 posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Carry_Okie; editor-surveyor; jazusamo; LucyT; Candor7; familyop; SierraWasp; Seadog Bytes; ...

Supporters argue that provisions in the legislation that granted Utah statehood would allow it ...

http://dailyme.com/story/2010030300002221/utah-move-seize-federal-land.html


5 posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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FINALLY. We need more of this. UT would be one of the wealthiest countries in the world with just teh clean coal.


6 posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:11 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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Sure wish they had started these actions years ago. They might have gotten on the docket by now.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:18 PM PDT by mia
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If the state of Utah gives the land back to the mining companies that owned it before the federal land steal, this is a good thing. If they sell it to someone else, it may be immoral as well as illegal.


8 posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:46 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Wasn’t that James Riady?


9 posted on 03/28/2010 8:02:04 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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State’s Rights


10 posted on 03/28/2010 8:02:59 PM PDT by CSI007
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One of my ancestors sold off most of Indiana to farmers and townsmen moving in from elsewhere. He sold both major grants (Clark, Lee, etc.) and federal claims in the region.

Of course that land had value for agriculture ~ except for the vast swamp South of Fort Wayne (the Limberlost) ~ that wasn't sold off until he'd been dead most of a century.

Utah is more like the Limberlost. Might have some value but it couldn't be realized until a later century ~ which may be now. The decisions regarding release of federal claims to that land should be subjected to extensive review. Certainly any state can give better attention to it's own land than can a remote federal agency.

11 posted on 03/28/2010 8:03:17 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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Yup. Thank goodness. We need more of this. the ONLY way we can pay down the debt, create wealth (a big deal), create jobs and tax revenues is domestic energy and we have it.

Sarah Palin “gets it” om energy - she needs to just GET AWAY from MCCain.


12 posted on 03/28/2010 8:03:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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WaHoo!!! Open up the anthracite mines.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 8:04:26 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: muawiyah

You are missing the point. The USA has 4 to 5 times the energy reserves of the Saudis. The Dems, some Repubs and enviros are on the Saudi take (funding think tanks).

The Feds grab the land and make it a park. This keeps us energy slaves to the Saudis. Great job Utah.


14 posted on 03/28/2010 8:05:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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? ~ we aren't really talking about immediate prior use "ownership". The land has been the property of the federal government since statehood. The federales merely rented it out to miners, etc.

Frankly, federal stewardship of land like this, for example in Indian reservations, has not been beneficial to the inhabitants, those who live near the area, nor the nation as a whole.

15 posted on 03/28/2010 8:06:01 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Frantzie
Do you know what's under Illinois?

There's a coal field that'd choke the crab nebula.

Same in North Dakota, South Dakota, parts of Wyoming, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio, and so on.

Utah isn't the only place in this country with coal.

The redesignation of the low-sulfur coalfields is the issue you're talking about ~ not Saudi intrigue.

The redesignation can be changed and the coal thrown open to mining.

I'd prefer just giving the whole place to Utah.

16 posted on 03/28/2010 8:08:52 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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Land rights ping!


17 posted on 03/28/2010 8:10:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: muawiyah

Illinois has enough coal and the right type of coal to create more coal diesel than the Saudis have in oil.


18 posted on 03/28/2010 8:11:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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We need Nevada on board on this. - What the fed gov has done to Nevada is obscene.


19 posted on 03/28/2010 8:13:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: george76

go utah


20 posted on 03/28/2010 8:15:57 PM PDT by phockthis
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