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...To those calling for a civil war, this Marine wants you to stop, and think...
newsvine.com ^ | Mar 26 2010 | Sgt C USMC

Posted on 03/27/2010 12:59:55 PM PDT by worst-case scenario

It's been said that the military is always preparing for war. That is true. We prepare for combat every day. We ran 5 miles today to the rifle range and shot nearly 200 rounds a piece at targets and then ran back. However, we also pray for peace. I would love one day to be completely unnecessary. But alas, I am a realist, and I know that day will never come.

The headlines of the last week have reminded me more of glimpsing at the S2 Daily Briefing Sheets while in theater or the Al-Jazeera than the NY Times or the Washington Post. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

Before I get into the main premise of this article - I need to make two statements here.

First and foremost , when it comes to the back and forth of who did what to whom and why - I don't give a @!$%#. It doesn't change the action. In life we're judged by our actions, nothing more, nothing less. One of the greatest things of the military is when it comes to an enemy, the politics behind the situation - don't matter in accomplishing that mission. For the military , life is simple in that regard.

Secondly, Regardless of your political ideology, you've earned the right as US Citizens to say your piece - no matter how wrong it may be. That is your right, and I will give my life to protect it.

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To: worst-case scenario

First and foremost I think this “Marine” needs psychological counseling.

Second, no one is calling for a civil war...even though many are cautiously preparing sporadic violence/challenges.

Third, the military cannot be called out to deal with civilians.

Forth, this “Marine” doesn’t seem to bright in regards to the Constitution he has sworn to protect and defend.

Lastly, this “Marine” has no Right to threaten citizens in this manner. NO RIGHT and he should be tracked down by the military authorities.


301 posted on 03/27/2010 4:31:27 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: worst-case scenario; Travis McGee
And a ping to Travis, if he's interested.

From the posted screed:
"Nearly everyone on that base, down to our 'secretaries' has a combat award of one type or another, they've faced some of the most stressful situations on Earth where succumbing to the stress can get you killed, and they flourished."

He or she is only making matters generally worse with that BS.

"Now I 'd like to disperse a myth here - many of you think that US military would not fight civilians. I can't speak for all, but in my case - the moment you declare civil war, you're no longer civilians. The moment you attack the constitution, you're now enemies of that constitution."

He or she is an instigator for liberal lefties, pouring gas on rhetorical political flames, lacking in firsthand combat training (amazonian feminism, REMF-ism), and moreso, in good public affairs experience.

Fellow Americans, if you've been disenfranchised a wee bit by government-paid special interests choosing all of your candidates for you, start voting with your actions with respect to the marketplace. If you don't have the self-discipline to do that or enough friends doing it with you, it's not time to do anything radical, yet. Without tactical operations like voting with your pocketbooks, you'll lose.

As for those officious individuals of you who want things to keep going just the way they are, well, that's too bad. When men like Bill Gross speak, the latent (until now) real power behind our country listens (investors who've had enough). In due time, officious individuals won't even have equipment, jobs, duties or resources to bluster about. There are many others like Bill hard at work to get the special interests off your backs and out of government.

The whole topic is blown smoke from those who aren't going to do anything significant from either side. The real revolutionaries are already at work with perfectly legal, honorable and peaceful tactics. These things take time.

It won't hurt anyone to spend your time and money getting necessities (like food, generators, etc.) ready for any widespread disaster that might come (e.g., economic collapse). When troublemakers are trying to instigate something, that may be the best way to go. When a monster charges at you, slip aside. And help him charge into the ground beyond you. While you're snapping your pocketbooks shut, encourage the beast to spend more.


302 posted on 03/27/2010 4:32:06 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: EBH

Forth=fourth...


303 posted on 03/27/2010 4:32:27 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“these foundless Americans”
I’ve never encountered this term. What does it mean?

“Think about it.......They will be facing and killing regular people who they meet on the street, at movie theaters, ball games and who they have grown up with.”

They won’t be facing and killing regular people they meet on the street. They will be engaged in firefights with pissed off civilians.
In the last War Between the States there didn’t seem to be any hesitation by the troops involved to shoot down their fellow americans who spoke the same language, because their fellow americans were shooting at them. Did the National Guard troops shoot or not at their fellow citizens at Kent State? These were weekend warriors with a closer relationship (due to being a civilian more often than a soldier) with their fellow citizens than a regular and yet they opened fire! Why? Because they were scared and felt threatened.
What you are not comprehending is that all of this fellowship, countryman bonding, etc all goes down the drain at the first shot. It doesn’t matter who torches it off, either.

“This so called “Marine” who wrote this is no Marine I ever knew. The whole article is complete fiction.”
Irrelevant. As posted earlier I have spoken with a real Marine and we both came to a different conclusion than you.


304 posted on 03/27/2010 4:34:11 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ataDude
By keeping track of who posts what on certain forums.

At the risk of sounding syntactically redundant, exactly how do you translate that information to the battlefield, i.e., what system of recognition would any given soldier use when he levels his gun sights at an arbitrary target, read: citizen.

305 posted on 03/27/2010 4:34:36 PM PDT by csense
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To: worst-case scenario
I call bull$hit. The terminology is all wrong. Many Marines simply would not fight the US citizenry and lastly it took 130,000 US troops to stop violence in Iraq; a nation of 30 million and not much bigger than Kalifornia with about 50,000 terrorists.
306 posted on 03/27/2010 4:38:08 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: DuncanWaring

It is extremely painful, not usually fatal, but it requires a lot of assistance and medical attention.


307 posted on 03/27/2010 4:39:01 PM PDT by Concho
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To: worst-case scenario

“Now I ‘d like to disperse a myth here - many of you think that US military would not fight civilians. I can’t speak for all, but in my case - the moment you declare civil war, you’re no longer civilians. The moment you attack the constitution, you’re now enemies of that constitution. And I swore to defend and support and if necessary give my life for that Constitution and utilize every tool, technique, and weapon at my disposal to do so. And trust me, I’m not alone.”

So, to this Marine, the “Constitution” is whatever his masters say it is and that We The People should just SUBMIT or he’ll be happy to kill us. Charming. You’re no patriot, “Sgt C”.


308 posted on 03/27/2010 4:39:24 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: worst-case scenario

The sergeant is a bit confused. He was sworn to DEFEND the Constitution not those elected constitutionally (assuming they were).

Now, first of all I don’t think there is a chance in hell that there will be a civil war anytime in the near future (certainly not in my lifetime). We will win this political battle by winning the hearts and minds of the people and at the ballot box. It is already happening.

But if there was a civil war, under the current political culture, I can guarantee you that 90% of the officer corps in the military are conservatives and have great disdain for the ‘rats, and that 65% of the troops are conservative also. They feel as we do: that the current leadership in Washington is trampling on the Constitution.

If a civil war broke out you would see a similar separation occur as it did during THE Civil War. Some would go with each side and entire units and military installations would side with the pro-constitutionalists (the conservatives).

As to the sergeant’s assertion that anyone calling for a civil war should banish the thought...I agree, but for different reasons. The Constitution is strong, it lives and we will beat back the socialists starting in November.


309 posted on 03/27/2010 4:40:41 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: jospehm20
I also know that no more than 15,000 poorly equipped and poorly educated third world terrorists at any one time in Iraq kept most of the Army, Air Force and MC tied up for years.

John Ross has a character in Unintended Consequences asserting the IRA never had more than 200 active members at a time; they kept an island the size of Arkansas tied up for decades.

310 posted on 03/27/2010 4:43:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Favor Center

Submit hell.

You have a lot of Americans to kill, because the people in this area will never submit. Bring a lot of body bags, cause someone is gonna need them. Because, you see, we are defending the Constitution also.


311 posted on 03/27/2010 4:43:38 PM PDT by Concho
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To: Favor Center
“Now I ‘d like to disperse a myth here - many of you think that US military would not fight civilians. I can’t speak for all, but in my case - the moment you declare civil war, you’re no longer civilians. The moment you attack the constitution, you’re now enemies of that constitution. And I swore to defend and support and if necessary give my life for that Constitution and utilize every tool, technique, and weapon at my disposal to do so. And trust me, I’m not alone.”

Game on.

312 posted on 03/27/2010 4:46:23 PM PDT by behzinlea
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The bloviating little a**hole deleted his nasty little brainless essay.


313 posted on 03/27/2010 4:49:45 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea

OMG! He did. I was just reading some of the comments a few minutes ago...


314 posted on 03/27/2010 4:52:30 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: hiredhand

whereby if you know it, then you simply know it; and if you don’t, there’s no way it can be explained.
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Amen, very well put....


315 posted on 03/27/2010 4:57:16 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 ) FIRE ALL INCUMBENTS)
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To: behzinlea
The bloviating little a**hole deleted his nasty little brainless essay.

Yes, comments had topped 850 and weren't going his way...guess he's not the badass mofo he thought he was....

316 posted on 03/27/2010 4:57:22 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: hiredhand

whereby if you know it, then you simply know it; and if you don’t, there’s no way it can be explained.
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Amen, very well put....


317 posted on 03/27/2010 4:58:08 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 ) FIRE ALL INCUMBENTS)
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To: EBH

Holy Mackeral! I wonder what the story is.


318 posted on 03/27/2010 4:58:58 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: chris_bdba

That’s the real issue I see coming down in 2010 and especially 2012 - integrity of the elections.

Especially if there is a hastily passed quick illegal alien amnesty, with lots of quick voter registrations.


319 posted on 03/27/2010 4:59:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: worst-case scenario

Maybe an officer got tipped off to his little rant...


320 posted on 03/27/2010 5:00:34 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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