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self | 23 March 2010 | self

Posted on 03/23/2010 12:22:35 PM PDT by ShadowAce

I know it was on here recently, but I cannot remember the title to search for it--where in the bill does it say that we can be imprisoned for not purchasing health insurance?

A link to the original post would work just fine, also.

Thanks!


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1 posted on 03/23/2010 12:22:35 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
Is it the Heritage Foundation that has all that detailed out somewhere?
2 posted on 03/23/2010 12:24:02 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ShadowAce

You can be fined for not being insured.
The fine is collected by the IRS.


3 posted on 03/23/2010 12:24:38 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Greetings, and how are you today, comrade?)
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To: ShadowAce

The IRS was not given the authority to imprison people for non-compliance with Obamacare. They can sieze $750 from your income tax returns if you have anything coming back. That’s it.


4 posted on 03/23/2010 12:26:19 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Repeal The 17th

“You can be fined for not being insured. The fine is collected by the IRS. “

All those ACORN babies gotta work somewhere...


5 posted on 03/23/2010 12:26:43 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama in complete control of your health care and mine. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: ShadowAce
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1914020220100319

This is an article about the timeline. Go to 2014 in the article and it discusses the fines for not having insurance. The jail time is not mentioned.

I know I read somewhere that if you failed to pay the fine you could be jailed, not sure where...

6 posted on 03/23/2010 12:27:09 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I thought there was a penalty for not getting insurance, and refusing to pay the penalty could mean imprisonment


7 posted on 03/23/2010 12:27:44 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I filed my last tax return. They are welcomed to come and talk to me about it. They’ll need to watch the trip wires though.


8 posted on 03/23/2010 12:28:05 PM PDT by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: ShadowAce
Not a Free Republic posting, but:

Pelosi: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail

9 posted on 03/23/2010 12:30:40 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I thought it rises over time to up to something like 2.5% of your income (or $750) whichever is greater.


10 posted on 03/23/2010 12:42:18 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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To: freespirited

But what happens if you refuse to pay the penalty?


11 posted on 03/23/2010 12:44:08 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: skoobedoo

Do you remember anything like this?


12 posted on 03/23/2010 12:46:21 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html


13 posted on 03/23/2010 12:55:31 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: ShadowAce

In an earlier version of the bill they were talking 25,000 fine and up to 5 years jail. I dont think that made it into the bill.....yet.


14 posted on 03/23/2010 12:55:47 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: ShadowAce
The bill (to my knowledge) doesn't provide for jail-time; instead, you're subject to a head tax, which is collected by the IRS, and if you fail to pay the head tax, then you can go to jail for violating the Internal Revenue Code.


15 posted on 03/23/2010 12:57:43 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/2109-Health-Care-Arbitrage-Obama-And-The-Dems.html

An option?


16 posted on 03/23/2010 12:59:35 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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Thanks for all the help you guys provided. I thought I had seen something fairly recent here on FR about a Dr’s letter itemizing the things in the bill.


17 posted on 03/23/2010 1:00:33 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Yo-Yo; ShadowAce
From Yo-Yo's link:

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]

If you follow the 7201 and 7203 links, it refers to this as a "tax", so I guess it would be treated just like any other tax that the IRS assesses,and if that is the case, then yes, you can go to jail.
18 posted on 03/23/2010 1:02:11 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ShadowAce

From my previous post at 13:

Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

This doesn’t happen often enough.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it “Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.”

The note was a follow-up to Ensign’s questioning at the markup.


19 posted on 03/23/2010 1:04:27 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: ConjunctionJunction; ravingnutter; Yo-Yo

I know—I looked at all those links. I was hoping to find something more current, though.


20 posted on 03/23/2010 1:10:17 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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